Re: "Cult of the Wintel PC" raises head at AWC's switch to Macs

Jim wrote:
In article <89454aa7-14ea-439d-8653-00b81f491e1b@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
ed <news@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Mar 5, 7:51 am, Jim <j...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article
<ab113c1d-744c-4b60-bac7-c44d759af...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
ed <n...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mar 4, 3:47 pm, Jim <j...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article
<49c3f3c1-7ee6-49b8-afb7-f88646b42...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
<snip>
Considering that they have side-stepped a huge licensing fee for Windows
the numbers aren't a stretch so far, only in your world and apparently
not in theirs and this is without re-writing things either.
you STILL don't get it jim- it's not windows that have huge licensing
fees- it's the client access licenses to access the servers. since
they're changing out the backend, they 'side step' those fees anyways,
regardless of the hardware on the client machines.
You're splitting hairs as windows usual. No one said it was solely the
server, even the article mentions ALL the licenses needed and THAT IS
the problem. For OS X that cost for clients is $0 and that wins here.
i'm not splitting hairs jim- you still just don't get it- it IS the
client access licenses to ther servers. otherwise there wouldn't need
to be any software license renewals to be legal. that's what YOU'RE
NOT GETTING- he talks about "Microsoft requires up to five client
licenses for just one PC, just so we have the legitimate right to
attach to the network"- what do you imagine those licenses are that
you avoid by changing clients to macs, and not from changing the
servers?
SFW! It's still the licensing that is avoided which is saving bundles of
money by not having that licensing cost in using Macs and xServes.
the licensing costs is avoided using xServes- NOT the client macs.
SFW is that's what i said, and ALL i said, FROM THE BEGINNING but you
keep arguing i'm wrong. sheesh.


Sheesh is right, but you're wrong.

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&a
rticleId=298043&pageNumber=2

AWC will not paying licensing fees for the client boxes either since VIPS is running in JAVA 6.0 or higher natively on the Macs. This will take 12-18 months and in the meantime they're using XP with Parallels but that will drop away.

"But function by function, AWC will rewrite all VIPS client software in Java 6.0 or higher so it can run at the front end on Apple Macs. VIPS currently runs client software on Windows XP, which AWC will not upgrade to the newer Vista operating system."

In the end, when the transition is complete, there will be no client licenses for Windows.

But instead of buying Parallels for every Mac they could have purchased Vista instead. Sure would like to see their justification numbers. You buy Macs PLUS Parallels to run XP instead of buying cheaper PCs with Vista Business (about $100).

Steve
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