Re: "Cult of the Wintel PC" raises head at AWC's switch to Macs

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<89454aa7-14ea-439d-8653-00b81f491e1b@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
ed <news@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Mar 5, 7:51 am, Jim <j...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article
<ab113c1d-744c-4b60-bac7-c44d759af...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
 ed <n...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mar 4, 3:47 pm, Jim <j...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article
<49c3f3c1-7ee6-49b8-afb7-f88646b42...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
<snip>
Considering that they have side-stepped a huge licensing fee for
Windows
the numbers aren't a stretch so far, only in your world and
apparently
not in theirs and this is without re-writing things either.

you STILL don't get it jim- it's not windows that have huge licensing
fees- it's the client access licenses to access the servers.  since
they're changing out the backend, they 'side step' those fees
anyways,
regardless of the hardware on the client machines.

You're splitting hairs as windows usual. No one said it was solely the
server, even the article mentions ALL the licenses needed and THAT IS
the problem. For OS X that cost for clients is $0 and that wins here.

i'm not splitting hairs jim- you still just don't get it- it IS the
client access licenses to ther servers.  otherwise there wouldn't need
to be any software license renewals to be legal.  that's what YOU'RE
NOT GETTING- he talks about "Microsoft requires up to five client
licenses for just one PC, just so we have the legitimate right to
attach to the network"- what do you imagine those licenses are that
you avoid by changing clients to macs, and not from changing the
servers?

SFW! It's still the licensing that is avoided which is saving bundles of
money by not having that licensing cost in using Macs and xServes.

the licensing costs is avoided using xServes- NOT the client macs.
SFW is that's what i said, and ALL i said, FROM THE BEGINNING but you
keep arguing i'm wrong. sheesh.


Sheesh is right, but you're wrong.

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&a
rticleId=298043&pageNumber=2

AWC will not paying licensing fees for the client boxes either since
VIPS is running in JAVA 6.0 or higher natively on the Macs. This will
take 12-18 months and in the meantime they're using XP with Parallels
but that will drop away.

"But function by function, AWC will rewrite all VIPS client software in
Java 6.0 or higher so it can run at the front end on Apple Macs. VIPS
currently runs client software on Windows XP, which AWC will not upgrade
to the newer Vista operating system."

In the end, when the transition is complete, there will be no client
licenses for Windows.


Get over it and past your dislike of Apple/Macs because they are cheaper
to use overall.

sorry dude, but i'm not the one with anything to get over here. ;D

You're the one not getting it from the users perspective.

<snip>
The problem appears to to be yours ed and not theirs and the
problems
are not do to technology, hardware or costs but due to folks like
you
who would trumpet the Microsoft Hegeonomy.

no jim, the problem is you have no idea what's going on.  :D

You're the one having the heartburn over the AWC switch, not me bubba.
Like I said, get past it, you'll feel a lot better.


Yeah, I'm not a Windows nut...

you're just a nut.  i'm not interested in what flavor nut you are.  :P

--
Jim
.

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