Re: consensual pedophilia is ok

On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 03:23:55 -0600, ZnU wrote
(in article <znu-2CD4EB.04235502012008@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>):

the minimum wage (adjusted for inflation) has declined,

Which is meaningless as most jobs start out well above the minimum
wage these days.

Nonetheless, people on the left generally support the minimum wage being
at a "living wage" level, and it largely hasn't been recently. This
suggests the country has not generally been enacting leftist policies.

Their support of this is confusing, because this notion means
that you tacitly admit that there are a whole slew of jobs for
which either the job will not exist at all, due to profit margin
issues relative to the difficulty of the work, or the employer
will be /forced/ to use illegal hiring practices.

Furthermore, anyone that seriously suggests someone working in a
minimum wage job is in a good position to get married and start
pumping out kids while doing so is delusional. For the to be
even remotely feasible, the above problem gets much worse, and
unemployment (legal employment rates dropping) would be almost
mandatory. Unless by some miracle you convince these same
people to lower taxes on small business owners at the same time.

wealth continues to concentrate more at the top (partially
because of changes in the tax system),

Actually our entire society at every level has gotten much richer.

The gains have been very unevenly distributed, particularly starting in
the '80s.

"Fairness", yeah, wouldn't it be nice if everyone made exactly
the same for a day's work? Actually no, it wouldn't. Turns out
people aren't willing to go to university for 4, 6, or 8 years
to learn difficult professions so they can make the same wage as
a guy changing oil for a living.

police powers have expanded,

Largely because of the idiotic War on Drugs which came about largely
because of the drug excesses of the 60's. Thanks hippies.

I suppose that's one way to blame the left.

On this one, I'd blame the right for pushing for about 98% of
these laws. RICO is a damn embarrassment to anyone even
remotely familiar with how it has been employed, but if existing
drug laws were by and large deleted, and you just kept those
having to do with drug usage that actually had potential harm of
others. Operating machinery under the influence, use in the
workforce, etc. and left the moron playing WoW while smoking
joints 18 hours a day alone, the police departments and federal
agencies might be able to focus on more important issues, or
more importantly, SHRINK some. Like that'll ever happen.

militarism is back in style (or was until everyone remembered why it
went out of style),

Its a dirty shame that no one spits on soldiers anymore isn't it?

You know what you can really do for soldiers, that I think they'd
appreciate? Not get them killed in pointless wars.

There are a lot of them currently volunteering to go back again,
because they feel it's important. And no, they're all not
psycho blood thirsty rambo wannabes. The military deployment
involves hundreds of different types of "soldiers", many of
which never see combat directly.

crimes carry tougher sentences,

Horros! We're actually seperating criminals from decent folk! There's
a rightwing idea!

Pretty much, yes.

So you postulate that the left wants to leave criminals in the
general population? Even after conviction? If that's the case,
why not just make everything legal, then just have the biggest,
baddest, meanest SOBs run everything? Schoolyard bullies can
all come out of retirement and take over.

various privatization schemes (for everything from schools to
power) have come into vogue,

A smattering at best. Nothing near like there should be.

Far more than most on the left would like to see.

Yes, because federal and state agencies doing many of this tasks
have demonstrated they are so goooood at it. Yeah, right.
trustbusting is practically unheard of

Mainly because there's no trusts to bust and that the whole idea was
based on a false premise anyway.

The notion that it was based on a false premise is a right-wing notion.
If left-wing policies hold sway, we should expect to see it.

Because in the interest of "fairness" someone that manages to
live their entire life and actually accumulate more than they
spend over that period, have zero right to decide what is done
with it after they die. It's the "people's money" and it needs
to be distributed "fairly". That'll encourage people to do
what? Oh right, spend it all before they die. Which will of
course, give the money to the evil rich people running
businesses that aren't dead yet. What a plan.

the welfare system has been largely dismantled,

LOL! That's hilarious. I did some work for a charitable organization
last year. There are tons of people living in $800/month apartments
paying only $30 for the rent, getting food stamps and welfare checks.
And that's in Indiana, a fairly welfare unfriendly state.

Nonetheless, the welfare system is not what it used to be.

Thankfully. LBJ put us in a tailspin for a long time, and
generated little more than a new form of slavery that wasn't so
focused on the color of one's skin. It'll still take many years
to unwind, if it ever happens.


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Lefty
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