Re: Apple/Macs for the Army


"Jim" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:jim-01B12F.11041822122007@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
In article <ybCdnS5v3qrBv_DanZ2dnUVZ_viunZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
"PC Guy" <pcguy@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Jim" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:jim-198226.00082122122007@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> In article <jNydndp438Rf9fHanZ2dnUVZ_sytnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
> "PC Guy" <pcguy@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> "Jim" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:jim-0BED45.19180521122007@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > In article <Fd2dnVcXOPYV_fHanZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
>> > "PC Guy" <pcguy@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Mayor of R'lyeh" <mayor.of.rlyeh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> news:0lnom395nj081hagn52844to9qarcq49c5@xxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 10:43:55 -0600, Jim <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>From Forbes
>> >> >>
>> >> >>http://tinyurl.com/2rojps
>> >> >>
>> >> >>"Given Apple's marketing toward the young and the trendy, you
>> >> >>wouldn't
>> >> >>expect the U.S. Army to be much of a customer. Lieutenant Colonel
>> >> >>C.J.
>> >> >>Wallington is hoping hackers won't expect it either.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Wallington, a division chief in the Army's office of enterprise
>> >> >>information systems, says the military is quietly working to
>> >> >>integrate
>> >> >>Macintosh computers into its systems to make them harder to >> >> >>hack."
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>more..
>> >> >
>> >> > "...Jonathan Broskey, a former Apple employee who now heads the
>> >> > Army's
>> >> > Apple program,..."
>> >> >
>> >> > Gee I wonderwhere they're getting all their unbiased info?
>> >> >
>> >> > "The marketing pitch that Apples are inherently more secure than >> >> > PCs
>> >> > is also largely a myth, contends Miller, who gained notoriety for
>> >> > remotely hacking the iPhone last August. He points to data >> >> > gathered
>> >> > by
>> >> > software security firm Secunia, which showed that Apple had to >> >> > patch
>> >> > nearly five times as many security flaws in its software over the
>> >> > past
>> >> > year as Microsoft (nasdaq: MSFT - news - people ) had to >> >> > patch
>> >> > in
>> >> > Windows. Apple's Quicktime player alone, he says, was patched 34
>> >> > times. "I love my Macs, but in terms of security, they're behind >> >> > the
>> >> > curve, compared to Windows," Miller warns."
>> >> >
>> >> > And this is from a confessed Maccie.
>> >> >
>> >> > "But the Army's Jonathan Broskey stands by his claims of Apple's
>> >> > security: He says the high number of patches to Apple software is >> >> > a
>> >> > good sign..."
>> >> >
>> >> > Nope. No delusion going on here. 8)
>> >> >
>> >> > You were right, Jim. There was more. 8)
>> >>
>> >> Not to mention this key part which follows the part Jim quoted:
>> >>
>> >> "That's because fewer attacks have been designed to infiltrate Mac
>> >> computers, and adding more Macs to the military's computer mix >> >> makes
>> >> it
>> >> tougher to destabilize a group of military computers with a single
>> >> attack,
>> >> Wallington says."
>> >>
>> >> The move isn't because Macs are more secure but because they want >> >> to
>> >> reduce
>> >> the monoculture.
>> >
>> > Did it ever possibly occur to you that lots of folks don't like M$
>>
>> Why yes, yes it has. And you can find a number of them here in this
>> forum.
>> We call them "Mac users".
>
> So, you think Mac Users from here go out hacking Windows systems?

No.

> Why would they do that

You tell me. It's your strawman.

It's not any strawman but a fact of the WinBizarro's who come here not
being Mac Owers or users and 30 mins at an Apple store doesn't count
either.

Which has what to do with your strawman?

> when unlike the WinBizarro's here(yourself included) don't go to > Windows
> NG's and bash Windows?

You Mactards just don't get it do you? Despite being told countless times
most of us aren't here to bash OS X. Or the Macintosh. Most of us are here
making fun of YOU, the foolish user who has tied their identity to a
computing device.

Only in your dreams. You've totally missed the fact that most Mac users
have chosen the Mac over other platforms, but aren't afraid of other
platforms when necessary. Many have Macs at home and use Windows at
work, because they're dictated to use it.

When was it ever in question most Mac users chose the Mac over other platforms?

If there is any identity with the computer, it's because it gets out of
the way and let's us get work done so we appreciate it just in the
manner that a carpenter is passionate of fine tools.

LOL! It doesn't matter why you have tied your identity to the computer. It's the fact that you have tied your identity to a computer.

So, forget your holier-than-thou stance, it's transparent effort. Don't
forget, you came here just to do what disruption you attempt to create
and that makes you the troll and Win-biased one and nothing else.

I came here to laugh at the people who have tied, for whatever reason, their identity to a computing platform. It's fun to watch them spread FUD and make up crap in an attempt to justify their choice in computers to the rest of us. Clue for you Jim: You don't have to. Just say "It's what I wanted to buy" and be done with it. You won't get any argument from me about your personal preference. I have mine, you have yours. Where the problem lies is when you attempt to justify your choice using a bunch of lies, FUD, crap, misinformation, etc about the Macintosh. It is no better than a Windows system. And the fact you attempt to "prove" it is is what draws us here. The stupidity you display while doing so is just too good to pass up.

> (Not that there aren't a couple who do, but that becomes an oddity.)
>
>>
>> > and that is also responsible for the hacking?
>>
>> Which has zero bearing on the security (or not) of Windows.
>
> Um, no. In your biased world maybe, in the real world, No.

Please explain. This ought to be good for some more laughs.


You're WinBiased which is why you come here out of desperation and
paranoia that something else, anything, might threaten your beloved
Windows.

No bias here. I just don't see any advantage to paying more for a computer that does nothing more. But if you do, that's fine...it's your money and far be it from me to tell you how to spend it.

Mac Users don't care since we don't go to Windows groups bashing Windows and leave it to this territory.

You don't have to go there. You can do it all right here.

You were gone for a while and it was quieter, go away again.

If you want us to go away DON'T RESPOND TO US. Face it Jim, without us this group would be dead. WE are the reason this group is so active.

.

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