Re: Well, that's f****** annoying!


"Mayor of R'lyeh" <mayor.of.rlyeh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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You've said so many ignorant and wrong things above its almost Edwinian...

1. I have iTunes 7.4.3.1 running right now on a 6 year old Toshiba
Satellite with only 256MB of RAM running Windows XP... It's using 37,392K
of RAM

Now add in the amount used by the iTunes helper service and the iPod
service. Then compare it to the 5K or so that Winamp takes.

I just installed Winamp 5.5
Right this second looking at the Task Manager winamp.exe takes 9,424K.
When playing a video it takes up 14,916K -- a lot more than 5K

iTunes 19084K
AppleMobileDeviceHelper.exe -- 5896K
iTunesHelper.exe -- 1596K
iPodService.exe -- 1192K
AppleMobileDeviceService 200K

You can disable AppleMobileDeviceHelper/AppleMobileDeviceService if you
don't have an iPhone.





2. iTunes does not "convert" music from MP3's into it's "preferred format"
when you install it on Windows.

The version I installed did. That they ended that practice doesn't
mean that version 1 didn't do it. I know it did. It did it to me.

No it didn't. I downloaded iTunes for Windows the day it came out in
October 2003. It never has needed to convert any songs except for WMA's.
Convert it to what? Why would the iPod need to convert MP3's when it plays
MP3's natively and can just copy the MP3 to the iPod?



MP3's do and always have worked on iPods
since the day they came out.

No one said they didn't Mr. Strawman Builder. However I did run into
something intereting. We were ripping some CDs on my computer for my
brother's iPod. It refused to play them until we had them down to
192K. It refused to play anything encoded at a higher rate. I can only
think that this had something t do with the fact that we were using
AudioGrabber and LAME instead of iTunes to do the ripping.

I don't know what the maximum bit rate MP3 that an iPod can use. But even
iTunes can encode up to 320kbps so I'm sure that the iPod can support it.
The only iPod that has limited playback ability is the shuffle.


iTunes does not convert MP3's to run on the
iPod.

I don't know why it converted them, nor do I care. The fact that it
did and did it without even asking was enough to put me off.


Convert it to what?

The iPod is seen on any OS as a regular USB Mass Storage Device. If
you choose to "View Hidden Files" in Windows and look in the iPod you will
find regular old mp3 files that are renamed but otherwise unmodified. The
only time iTunes converts music is when you import WMA files. Even then,
it
leaves the original unmodified.

Maybe the new version does.

The iPod has always been seen as a USB Mass Storage device. Even before
Apple officially supported Windows, you could mount the iPod on Windows just
by connecting it and using a third party HFS driver to access the iPod.


3. iTunes never deletes the original files nor does it move files
automatically.

Yes it does. It did it to me.


I've used iTunes since it first came out for Windows -- it doesn't and never
has deleted music.

By default, iTunes does not move files. iTunes points to
the original location of the files on your hard drive. If you click on
the
Advanced tab in Preference you can choose to "Keep iTunes Music
Organized".
This option is off by default, but if you turn it on AND choose to
"Consolidate Library", iTunes will make a copy of the music and put the
copy
into it's own directory structure. However it will still not delete the
original file.


4. iTunes does not add DRM to non-DRM'd files nor does the iPod. Files
are
merely copied to the iPod renamed but otherwised unmodified.

Like I said I was told this. I've never owned a iPod.

So, why did you ever bother with iTunes?



5. By default, iTunes does rip audio to AAC. AAC is not a proprietary
Apple format. In fact, Apple had *nothing* to do with the creation of
AAC.
AAC is specified by the same organization that specifies MP3 and is
considered the successor to MP3. Every major DAP maker has players that
support AAC --- including MS's Zune.

Yes I am running iTunes right this second on Windows XP and can verify
everything previously stated.

Version 1? That's what I'm talking about.

You couldn't be talking about version 1. Version 1 never existed for
Windows. The first version for Windows was version 4.1. I used iTunes for
Windows exclusively from October 2003 to around mid 2005.




Don't blame your ignorance on Apple.

So it was my ignorance my transferred, deleted and converted my files?

Seeing that iTunes doesn't delete or convert files it must be. Why would
iTunes need to convert MP3's?



--

Why settle for the lesser evil?
Cthulhu for president 2008


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