Re: How embarrassing for KDT

On Oct 15, 8:53 pm, "kdt" <scarface...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Edwin" <thorn...@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message

news:1192478486.848286.86290@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

But he did chose to compare iPhones to something that is used in the
PDA market,and other markets as well. It's not my fault he was
ignorant of the other uses of Windows Mobile. That doesn't require
us to ignore its other uses and markets.

Gaining market share in the standalone PDA market is worth about as much as
gaining share in the market for VCR's....

It's it fortunate that Windows Mobile is NOT restricted to the stand
alone PDA market?

Haven't you been keeping up with developments for the past three years?

I'm not the one who put Windows Mobile at a fraction of its sales...
YOU are.

Back in 2004.....http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,115879-page,1/article.html

"Shipments of personal digital assistants continued their steady fall in the
first quarter of 2004, as a stronger than usual seasonal dropoff in
shipments added to an ongoing decline"

You had to go back to 2004 for that one, making you deliberately out
of date:

"Microsoft to Double Windows Mobile Phones in 2008
By Wireless Week Staff
WirelessWeek - May 01, 2007"

"Microsoft says that it plans to double the number of Windows Mobile
software licenses it sells to 20 million worldwide in fiscal year
2008, stepping up competition with Research In Motion (RIM) and
Symbian. The company said that it is gaining market share and expects
that trend to continue."

"Microsoft's Senior Vice President for Mobile Communications Pieter
Knook told Dow Jones Newswires: "This will be the fourth year that we
have doubled our size and we are significantly outgrowing the market
and also our competition. RIM and Symbian aren't doing this and we're
gaining share and growing our portfolio.""

"Knook also said the recent RIM BlackBerry service outage could help
Microsoft's move to grow its enterprise customer base. "It reinforces
the point that there's a single point of failure in RIM's
infrastructure and it's provoking a lot of companies to look at the
alternatives," he told the newswire."

"Currently, HTC manufactures most of the phones with Windows Mobile,
but Microsoft also said that it plans to expand the variety of
handsets that use its software."


"Analysts have been warning PDA vendors for several quarters that consumers
and business customers have lost their taste for stand-alone PDAs that
manage contacts and calendar information. Instead, high-end buyers are
increasingly intrigued by new cell phones that have improved personal
information management capability or smart phones that combine a cell phone
with a powerful PDA operating system such as PalmSource's Palm OS or
Microsoft's Windows Mobile, Linsalata says."

You're stuck in 2004, and you're reading information about Palm and
other non-MS PDAs:

"Gartner Says Windows Mobile Devices Drove Worldwide PDA Market to 40
Percent Growth in First Quarter of 2007"

"STAMFORD, Conn., May 22, 2007 -"

"Shipments of Windows Mobile PDAs grew 64 percent in the first quarter
of 2007, and this strong growth helped propel worldwide PDA shipments
to 5.1 million units, a 39.7 percent increase from the first quarter
of 2006, according to Gartner, Inc."

http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=506328

and more recently....

http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/EA77FFD9-DABE-4445-B277-E0182C64ED62/

"Shipments plunged to 919,916 in the first quarter, compared to 1,549,199
the year before. IDC said the sharp downward trend in the market was
accelerated by Dell's decision to leave the market.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The handheld device market is continuing its relentless slide as 36% fewer
devices were shipped in the first quarter compared with the same quarter in
the previous year, according to a report released Tuesday by IDC.
Shipments plunged to 919,916 in the 2007 quarter versus 1,549,199 the year
before. The market research firm said the sharp downward trend in the market
was accelerated by Dell's decision to leave the market."

Your article isn't about Windows Mobile, who is pushing Palm OS and
other non-MS PDAs out of the market.

AGAIN:

"Windows Mobile PDA OS shipments surpassed 3.1 million units
accounting for 62.1 percent of shipments in the first quarter of 2007
(see Table 2). RIM was the nearest competitor with 18.1 percent market
share."



According to you, what you don't
say counts, so why shouldn't that count for him?

Because he didn't say "Windows Mobile failed in the mobile phone
market." He would have been wrong even if he had.

The article I linked to was referring to the smart phone market..

It doesn't matter what you were referring to. You chose to compare
to Windows Mobile, so you took on all of Windows Mobile.

.

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