Re: OT: Sigh... Hey, Americans, *this* is our president

"Steve Carroll" <noone@xxxxxxxxxxx> stated in post
noone-9E537C.08433012092007@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on 9/12/07 7:43 AM:

Yea.. like we had options.
Both those options were better than bush, imho.
And hindsight is almost always 20-20.

Hindsight? The whole world knew back then that pretty much anyone and
anything were better than bush. Thus this:

http://www.darleenclick.com/weblog/archives/mirror-110404.jpg

It might be hindsight for a US American, but not to people living
outside the US. We already knew.

Like we give a *** what the rest of the world thinks. ***.. doing
THAT was what caused the mess called the UN today...

Agreed about the UN... the thing is a total sham and Bush proved it. That's
one GREAT thing he did in my opinion. No matter what we do much of the rest of
the world will whine about something we did or are not doing or should do etc.

Do you disagree that Bush's actions have hurt the way the US is seen around
the world?

- that's the nature of being a superpower like ours. Bottom line... we can
listen but at the end of the day we must make our own decisions.

No doubt - but we should also follow, to the best of our ability, the
agreements that we make. To not follow treaties is not only against
International law it is against the US Constitution. The US making its own
decisions should not include ignoring the deals it makes and its own laws.
The rule of law should be followed in all but the most extreme of cases.

So many countries have their hand in out pockets it's amazing, so they have
motives for their whining. Personally I wish we'd become a lot more
isolationist... give these people what they're asking for...(us to *** out...
which is just fine with me). Be a lot different world were that to happen,
though. We work harder than every country on the planet...

How do you figure the people of the US "work harder" than everyone else?

and we give more of that out than any country. We have a mideast that is 1000
years behind the times in many places, lots of REAL human rights violations
(make Abu Ghraib look like a fucking picnic ground), especially towards
women... funny how we don't see these people whining too much about that...
only about us trying to change things so this stuff goes away.

Is the idea that the US is working for human rights the current excuse for
going to Iraq? Hard to keep up with all the changing stories from the Bush
administration.


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