Re: Need Administrator Password
- From: Sandman <mr@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:17:51 +0200
In article <ieCdnZbO7dUdVkHbnZ2dnUVZ_s6mnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
"Edwin" <thorne25@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
I just purchased a used eMac and need to install new
software. I don't have the Administrator Password and don't
want to format because I want to keep some of the installed
programs.
IOW, you're a software pirate. Many Mac owners are.
You don't know that.
Sure I do, and you'd know it too if you weren't an idiot.
Why is it that you get to make assumptions like that but no one
else does?
I didn't make any assumptions.
You assumed he was pirating the software.
I assumed nothing. He told us he is pirating software.
No he didn't. He said he wanted to keep some of the installed
programs. You don't know if those are programs that are licensed to a
user. In fact, the programs on the computer could all be freeware for
all we know.
If I do a restore, will I be able to keep some of the apps,
or is there no hope without contacting the original owner?
Macs just work.
Put aside your questions and "just work," forthwith.
They do. Apple has provided the means for any Mac owner to
reset any password.
So Macs lack security for their passwords. Duly noted.
Nope. *Any* machine can be broken into if you have physical
access to it.
Untrue.
Give a counter-example...
No, you support your claims. Point out some other machine other than an
Apple computer that your claim is true for.
Every computer. Windows, Linux. All can be broken into with physical
access to them.
If you take your Windows box to your computer shop, they will reset
your admin password so they can work with your machine and recreate
whatever problem you're having with it. It's a necessary function.
With a OF password and correct settings, a Mac can't be booted with a
disk and the password can't be reset. I.e. if you want *more* physical
security, you can have it. Of course, you'd have to encrypt your
entire hard drive if you want your data secure, since one can just rip
the disk out of the box and put it in another Mac to get to the files.
Again, with physical access, security is out the door. That's why
critical business servers are locked up in server rooms, and not on
display in the foyer.
Anyone with physical access to the machine which hasn't also had an Open
Firmware password set as well.
Now you're backpeddling, as usual.
Nopes, just stating facts. Even with a OF password, the disks all
still have encrypted data on them, so if you want to read them, just
rip them out of the box and put them in another Mac.
Then you add disk encryption, OF password and OF disk boot disabling
to the party and you're a wee bit more secure.
Yes he did. If he had those he wouldn't be looking for a way to
keep from losing his installed software. You're just too stupid
to understand what's right in front of your face.
No, he didn't. He could simply not want to go through the hassle of
reinstalling everything.
He said he didn't want to lose the software, not that he didn't want to have
to reinstall it.
He didn't say it was licensed software either. You just assumed that
it was.
and he certainly didn't say that he doesn't have a Mac OS X
install disk.
It does if using it to reset the password is as easy as you claim
it is.
How does not knowing that a facility was available to him equate to
that facility being unavailable or hard?
Could you really be stupid enough to need an answer to that question?
Could you really not answer the question?
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Sandman[.net]
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