Re: Vista exceeds Apple's installed base in first five weeks of shipment!



On Jul 31, 2:58 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <1185849607.690699.182...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,



Edwin <thorn...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jul 30, 6:16 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <1185836511.319654.323...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,

Edwin <thorn...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jul 30, 5:54 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <1185835808.565157.291...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,

Edwin <thorn...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Read it and weep, Maccies:

Microsoft Thursday moved to counter criticism about the uptake of
Windows Vista by announcing it now has shipped 60 million copies of
the operating system.

What's to weep about?

As if you don't know.

Who here wouldn't have expected this?

You ought to know.

I do know: nobody.

You're lying again.

You wish you could prove that...

Proving it is easy. But why bother with a guy who never bothers to
prove what he claims?


"By our math, we eclipsed the entire install base of Apple in the
first five weeks of shipment," Kevin Turner, Microsoft's COO, said at
the company's annual financial analysts meeting.

Turner said there are 42 million PCs covered by volume-licensing
annuity agreements for Vista. He said strong renewals for enterprise
agreements are driving the uptake. "Customers are purchasing the
rights to Vista because they are planning deployments," he said.

He said Continental Airlines plans to roll out 10,000 seats of Vista
by year-end, and Banco Bradesco in Brazil has rolled out 70,000 seats
this year. Microsoft itself has rolled out 100,000 seats.

He said deployments were being driven by corporate rollouts,
governments and midmarket customers.

Microsoft said its Windows install base will reach another milestone
in the next 12 months.

"The install base of Windows computers this coming 12 months will
reach one billion," said Steve Ballmer, Microsoft's CEO. "If you stop
and think about that for a second, by end of our fiscal year '08 there
will be more PCs running Windows in the world than there are
automobiles, which to me is kind of a mind-numbing concept."

Pretty much everything numbs Ballmer's mind.

Where does a twerp like you get off making fun of Ballmer?

Oh, come *on*, Edwin.

Do the math, for once in your life:

You mistakenly assume I share your lack of math.

The world's population is something like 6.5 billion and approximately
1.8 billion of them are age 14 and under. That leaves 4.7 billion.

Why did the 14 year olds get subtracted from the number of people who
might have a computer?

Yes, Edwin. *Some* 14 and unders in the developed world will have
computers and that will bump the numbers around *a little*.

There's millions of 14 year olds, and under, who will "bump the
numbers around" a LOT.

Here's another hair...

Why do you keep finding hair between your teeth?



Then factor in that nearly 3 billion people in the world live on less
than 2 dollars a day, so take 46% of the remaining 4.7 billion away and
you're left with just over 2.5 billion people who could reasonable use
those billion computers.

How about documenting those figures?

Are you disagreeing with them?

I'm expecting you to document your claims in the manner you
relentlessly demand from others, all the while realizing your non-
compliance means anything your wrote lacks credibility and can be
dismissed out of hand.



A billion copies of Windows *sold* over the years: sure.

A billion in used (installed base): no way.

Even if we accept your figures as true, you didn't dismiss a billion
installed copies of Windows by saying "no way."

Yup. 1 Windows installation for every 2.5 people on earth who could have
a reasonable *chance* to have one? No.

You misspelled "yes, of course."

It just doesn't reach as far as plausible.

"So the actual installed base of personal computers in use is well
under the famous "billion users of the internet", at about 850 million
PCs (because some of the billion internet users access via mobile
phone, PDA, or via a cybercafe or campus computer at the university
etc). Perhaps surprisingly to many reading our blog, the majority of
those are still desktop PCs, it was only last year that worldwide more
laptops were sold than desktop PCs worldwide. Still, 850 million PCs."

http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2007/01/putting_27_bill.html

"There are 800 million PCs in the world, about 1 in every 8 people

1.1 billion people or 1 in every 6 people accessed the internet. The
difference between PCs and internet users is due to people:

* sharing computers;
* using internet cafes;
* using the internet from work, and
* accessing the internet on mobile devices."

http://nickcowie.com/2007/mobile-web-why-should-you-care/

"...800 million PCs shipped with Java..."

http://uk.sun.com/java/everywhere/

There are already 800-850 million PCs in the world, yet you find it
"unreasonable" and "implausible" that there would soon be 1 billion.

Do the math, for once in your life, Alan.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135158-pg,1/article.html

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