Re: 10 Ways The Nokia N800 Is Better Than Apple's iPhone
- From: Belphegor <huelse@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 16:03:40 -0700
On May 9, 7:31 am, Sandman <m...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <1178656184.977944.155...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Edwin <thorn...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yeah, well, I suppose an actual cell phone and an iPod might actually
be worth $100 in this context.
I don't see what a cell phone combined with an iPod has to do with
this, seeing how that combination doesn't have the features of the
N800 or the iPhone.
What do you mean? The iPhone is a cell phone, an iPod and a internet
tablet. A Nokia N800 is only a internet tablet.
2. Open Source
This really isn't a unique selling point for the target audience.
Here we see the Mac Advocate tactic of creating an arbitrary,
artificial "target audience" to match a product that Apple is selling.
Well, the target audience of the iPhone is cellphone buyers. I am
pretty sure no one of those cares about open source, given the fact
that they haven't been running to the stores buying Linux cell phones
uptil now. :)
3. Third Party Applications
I can see how this might become a problem for the iPhone, if third
party applications are sparse. Still, if Apples intentions are to keep
better control on third party apps and only distribute them through
the iTunes Store, it might work.
As is typical with you, one hand gives, and the other hand takes it
How do you figure? I am agreeing with you that if Apple doesn't allow
for third party applications, that may be a problem. But if they do
allow for it, it may not be. Rumors has it that Apple may be offering
third party applications through the iTunes Store only, and not
"download and install yourself".
4. No Service Contract with Cingular Needed
Uh, since no mobile phone is included :-D
It can be paired with the mobile phone of your choice.
Right, but you can't make calls with it, since, well, it's not a
mobile phone. :)
It's also a WIFI device with a VOIP phone built in.
Yeah, that's great. But we don't want to start comparing coverage
between Wifi and GSM. :)
Still, this Cingular-only approach could only work in the states.
You'll have yet another Apple product to give lip service to.
What do you mean? Apple are going to have to find another carrier
solution in scandinavia than exclusivity.
And what do you mean "another"? What other Apple products am I only
giving "lip service" to? In fact, I *own* a Nokia N800. Do you? If
not, then you're only giving lip service to it, aren't you?
6. Better Audio and Video Codec Support
The N800 supports a wide range of audio and video formats. Supported
audio formats are AAC, AMR, MP2, MP3, RA (Real Audio), WAV, WMA. You
can play videos in the following formats: 3GP, AVI, H.263, MPEG-1,
MPEG-4, RV (Real Video), and Flash Video (YouTube!).
Neither of which could be called "better" than AAC and H.264, really.
It doesn't have to be called "better," it just has to be compatible
with the formats the sites you visit are using. It gives you access
to more content.
Yeah, which is true for flash. Youtube videos needs to be converted
for the iPhone/iPod. It's a hassle for some, I'm sure. Other than
that, I can't think of it. Most sites with downloadable content
usually has a "for iPod" link and a "for PSP" link. None has a "For
N800" link so far...
7. It's Not a Cell Phone
The N800 is not a cell phone. At first, I thought this was a bad
thing. After thinking about it, I realized that I don't need (or even
want) to haul around a mini computer with me everywhere I go.
That's odd. The entire idea is to find a device that can replace
several devices successfully.
Then you ought to reread items 4 and 8 several more times.
Neither of which makes the N800 replace a cell phone. Have you bought
a N800 to replace your cell phone? VoIP is an application on the N800,
not a standby mode that is ready to receive calls at any time for
starters. And then there's the wifi/GSM covrage issue as well.
Sure, this could be sweet for some. Mainly technically inclined, of
Lots of regular people are doing this every day already, with PDAs and
I know of exactly no one. Maybe your experience is different.
With the iPhone, you will need to make all your calls via Cingular.
More money for Cingular and Apple.
In the states. :)
Being SOL makes you smile?
In what way am I "SOL"?
Since it's a mobile phone, it's communication focus is on GSM/EDGE,
which hasn't got enough bandwidth to do video calls. When the iPhone
goes 3G, video calls should be available.
Vaporware to the rescue!
It hasn't been announced that it will. I'm just assuming.
Plus, the camera quality of the N800 really truly sucks. :)
I don't believe you.
Here's a shot of my office made by it:
That's 640x480 in really crappy quality. For reference, this is a shot
made by the built-in iSight of my MacBook Pro:
It could hardly be called good quality, but it's the same size as the
N80 and is a lot better. It's worth noting that not only is it the
same resolution as the N800 (640x480), it's taken with a camera lens
which is pretty much the same size as well.
I also took a shot with my Nokia N95, which has a 5 megapixel camera:
Pretty bad quality for a 5MP camera if you ask me. Here's an image
from a Canon EOS400:
You can even see the text "Great Quality, Edwin" on one of my screens,
and the N800 and N95 on the table. :)
10. It's Available Now
I know, I have one. It's pretty nice,
Truly sucking makes it pretty nice?
The N800 doesn't truly suck. It's camera truly sucks.
but it's only another device. It
doesn't replace any other device. I still have to have a cell phone, I
still have to have an iPod.
You choose to have those other things, you don't have to.
Of course I do, since N800 doesn't have either.
This is truly a classic return... I bet poor Edwin never thought that
some some sucker would actually buy an N800 and be able to talk
intelligently about it.
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