Re: OT: Sandman and Snit come to an agreement. I welcome others to join.

In article <C2AA0BBD.8612F%CSMA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Snit <CSMA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Yeah, we invited them in to talk about it, and they had no problems at
all. Not that they were in over their ears about how easy it was -
www.malarnetcity.se was a pretty messy site back then (I've cleaned it
up substantially now), but nothing of that had anything to do with
code, though, just layout. They like the community a lot.

If the layout and general ease of use is not there then content will not be
found or used.

Yeah. The thing with huge web projects (as www.malarnetcity.se) is
that it will outgrow itself. The one I have online now is version 4 of
the site, with major navigational and structural cleanups. It has been
recieved really well.

The problem was that the site, being a market and community site, grew
in functionality in every possible way, so the navigation got
cluttered up and people felt lost. We did a few surveys and redid it
from scratch. :)

I used to run a communications system for about 200 schools
and 100 United Way agencies - at the beginning it worked real well and
people really liked it (overall). As time went by, though, politics got in
the way - the design I had created for the system was altered *drastically*
and it was designed not with users in mind but with serving the whims of the
politics and infighting silliness at the school district. We had some
die-hard users who tolerated the changes, but few liked it and many people
left. The growth slowed and, at least for a while, the number of active
users dropped. They also made other silly decisions. The software ran on
an old Mac and we started to pass the number of files HFS can handle. It
got so bad that the backup software we were using (Retrospect) could no
longer back it up. In order to migrate to a better system I would have to
take it down for a few hours - or, to be safe, give myself a full day. This
was unacceptable ... and so we had no backups. It is also one of the
reasons I quit... and a couple months after I left the whole system came
crashing down, they lost some big clients, and were hurting badly.

But I digress... :)

Hehe, tough luck. :)

How do you figure? Don't know about Google, but lots of engines just
parse away the markup and index the text.

Not all errors will cause Google problems, but some will. Doing a quick
search:

<http://www.searchenginepromotionhelp.com/m/articles/search-engine-problems/
why-validate-html.php>
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A few months ago I helped a webmaster who had lost his Top
10 ranking because of a simple typo in his HTML. One badly
placed angle bracket kept Googlebot from correctly parsing
the home page, causing it to fall completely out of the
index. The page displayed correctly under all the major
browsers, but it still caused problems for Googlebot.
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Yeah, as I said, I don't know about Google... But missing a angle
bracket usually brakes parsing as well. Missing to close an open tag
may not. It's just a huge smorgasbord of things that have alternating
effects on parsing :)




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