Re: What Mac can beat this for the same or less?

On 2007-06-24 20:07:46 -0700, "PC Guy" <pcguy@xxxxxxxxxxx> said:


"michelle ronn" <completelyinvalid@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:2007062419550777923-completelyinvalid@xxxxxxxxxxx
On 2007-06-24 19:27:48 -0700, "PC Guy" <pcguy@xxxxxxxxxxx> said:


"michelle ronn" <completelyinvalid@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:2007062418465550073-completelyinvalid@xxxxxxxxxxx
On 2007-06-24 10:34:14 -0700, PC Guy <pcguy@xxxxxxxxxxx> said:

HP Pavilion dv9260nr Notebook

Core 2 Duo @ 2.0GHz
2GB DDR2 RAM
200GB HD
HD-DVD/CD-R Lightscribe Drive
17" Screen
HD Video Tuner
1Gb Ethernet
Remote
Built in video camera
Vista Ultimate 64 (OS X won't see 64 bit support until Leopard)
$1,800.00

Again, troll bait, I expect better from you.

Troll bait? Is not the purpose of this forum to compare Macintosh computers to other computing platforms?

OS X supports 64 bit applications now. It does not support 64 bit GUI applications.

LOL! I was wondering who was going to be the first fool to draw this distinction. Hello McFly! Recall that the primary draw of OS X is its GUI, not its CLI. Anyway with Windows you don't have to worry about this. Even GUI apps are 64 bit.

I would argue that most of the folks in this forum do not know enough to draw this distinction.

I would make that same argument for many of the discussions that go on in this forum. But that doesn't stop Mactards from making them.

I have also seen in your previous posts that you seem to know enough about
code to know that this is a crap arguement that you are making. In Windows
you should worry about this, as a 64 bit user interface is wasting resources; most of the time.

But as soon as Leopard gets it it will be OK. Right?

I am sure that some bozo who doesn't go to code reviews with people who are anal about code optimization will state that this is OK. I will not be one of those. If an application does not need to be 64 bit, I will call it out. For example, in either the Windows or OS X environment, properly going completely 64 bit can limit your target market. No sense optimizing code where your user base does not exist. Bad engineering.

I will also add that I have a proven track record in this forum of being critical of Apple.

However, in the grand tradition of "does this really matter given time and cost constraints" I probably won't care a whole lot one way or the other.

If I wrote code that was outside of the target market of "any user with a browser", I might care more.


It is not a case of GUI vs CLI. It is a case of user presentation code vs background working code, and the message passing interfaces between the two. This architecture is actually generally better for a variety of reasons, multi-tasking across cores being a large one.

I would also argue that any program outside of something extremely trivial is going to be written in a modular fashion. This means that if it is written by a half way experienced programmer, the GUI interface code is written seperately from the real working code, which makes this distinction a complete non issue. Yes, this is true even for a Windows application.

In the end Windows is fully 64 bit whereas OS X is a hybrid.

In the end, Windows for x64 supports 64 bit applications. OS X 10.4 supports 64 bit applications. Each one has caveats.


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