Re: Who thinks 10.5 will be X86 crackable?

In article <sehix-8FD6B3.13285622062007@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Steve Hix <sehix@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

In article
<replytogroup-3F4DBC.07170722062007@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
The New Guy <replytogroup@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

In article <sehix-41AC7C.20400921062007@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Steve Hix <sehix@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

In article
<replytogroup-DEBCDD.22014621062007@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
The New Guy <replytogroup@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

In article <a-699FB3.20170321062007@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
none <a@xxxxx> wrote:

The New Guy <replytogroup@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

In the past while, every time Apple updated 10.4 the OSX86 crowd
(http://insanelymac.com) seemed to be able to crack it shortly
thereafter. If Apple tightens things up with 10.5 it will leave
the
OSX86 community really in a spot using a totally non-upgradeable
OS.
Basically an OS without a future. We'll know in a few months of
course. But I wonder what percentage of people think it will be
crackable? What do you think?

sure it will be "crackable", apple doesn't really care since they
know
people that crack are still going to be stuck using crappy Wintel
hardware.

Apple uses a server type Intel motherboard, Intel CPU's, etc. Those
are the same components used in PC's. OSX86 people can buy low end or
high end.

the only way to experience OSX is to get REAL Apple hardware,
everything
else is 60% of the game.

There is not much very special even in a Mac Pro. If I've missed
something, please enlighten me. It sure ain't the CPU, motherboard,
video card or anything else I can see. The Minis and iMacs are way
lower than most PC's these days.

No, most of the traffic is really cheap, commodity hardware.
Which isn't better overall than even the low-end Mac hardware.

The Mac Pro has numerous compromises. Not even close to cutting edge
technology. No eSata,

Third-party.

You mean you can get eSata if you buy the 3rd party eSata PCI-Express
card? That's better than not having the option of course. I wonder
how much they cost?

no overclocking,

With all the problems that that brings in its train. (You're mistaking a
feature for a bug, hobbyist.)

Many high end computer makers are overclocking their machines for
better performance. With better cooling, overclocking is becoming far
more reliable. And almost mainstream. With the Core 2 CPU's
producing far less heat than previous models, its going to make this
even more attractive and attainable.

667mhz ram speed limitations
(current high end PC ram was 800 mhz a year ago, currently its at
least 1066 mhz), etc.

What part of "high-end isn't close to being most systems sold" has you
confused?

Please rephrase that. You deleted the context. The fastest ram the
Mac Pro uses is PC5300. They are selling PC9600 ram now. Below that
is PC8000 and PC6400. (It should be said that the Mac Pro uses ECC
FD-Dimms which have both advantages and disadvantages.)

You're living in a
delusional dreamworld if you think there is something special about
Mac hardware.

Didn't say it was, did I? I *did* note that it was better quality than
*most* PCs sold, since there is a lot more sold at the low cheap end
than at the high end you're fixated on.

Nobody's talking about "most" PC's. I'm talking about specific parts,
not nebulous sweeping statements.

Its great marketing from Apple's side though.

It does seem to be working, yes. Helps that the overall systems work
quite well, doesn't it?

Apple has problems like other hardware manufacturers. Far fewer that
most companies, granted. Anyways, this is not a discussion about
hardware. Its a discussion about if OS X 10.5 will be crackable.
.

Relevant Pages

  • Re: My Vista Experience
    ... multiple threads on the Apple Mac Pro discussion site. ... Perhaps Leopard drives the graphics card harder.... ... Apple made OS X UNIX compliant, ... It reminds me of the days of cash strapped IT depts. looking for ways to reduce the costs of hardware by doing 3rd party add ons to VAX systems, not realizing that the hardware and software in this case go hand in hand. ...
    (comp.sys.mac.advocacy)
  • Re: Any OSX86 users here?
    ... If you'd own a Mac you had probably recognized that Apple does provide ... And I hear about it all the time from Windows people. ... it's definitely no hardware fault... ... The Mac Pro is quite current except for the lack of eSata, ...
    (comp.sys.intel)
  • Re: PCMag: Louderback praising Mac Pro
    ... Mac Pro. ... I'm glad he likes the MacBook Pro, but OSX on generic hardware is a red ... Apple needs to run on hardware it has control over to ... Also customer support: Apple doesn't want to ...
    (comp.sys.mac.advocacy)
  • Re: PCMag: Louderback praising Mac Pro
    ... Start with the Mac Pro. ... And then going on to trot out the oft suggestion of what a killing Apple ... run reliably on a larger range of hardware, ...
    (comp.sys.mac.advocacy)
  • Re: Any OSX86 users here?
    ... But then I'm only using high quality hardware and no self-build crap... ... As long as people use crap hardware and install every piece of shit they find there will be stability issues... ... The Mac Pro is quite current except for the lack of eSata, ...
    (comp.sys.intel)
Loading