Re: Wowsers!
- From: ZnU <znu@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 03:40:54 -0400
In article <1178865849.989442.148330@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Mr X <imouttahere@xxxxxxx> wrote:
On May 10, 12:13 pm, ZnU <z...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <1178771672.658467.15...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Mr X <imouttah...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Just got around to installing the Silverlight 1.1 stuff . . .
Both Microsoft and Adobe (with Apollo) are nuts if they think they're
going to take a serious bite out of HTML + JavaScript. Anything
controlled by one company in this way is *not* going to be the future of
the Internet.
I could care less about "the internet" -- it will take care of itself
-- I just prefer:
VisualStudio over XCode/eclipse/etc
C# 3.0 over ObjC/ObjC2, Java6, JavaScript
Um, if you couldn't care less about the Internet, why are you talking
about "Web 2.0 written in C#/.net/VisualStudio 9 deployable on
Safari/FireFox and IE7."
You'd think companies would understand the Internet well enough not to
make such silly mistakes these days, but apparently not. And people
still fall for it.
Developers gravitate to the least hassle.
Apparently Microsoft has been putting its best people on the C#, CLR,
and VisualStudio teams.
It has probably been outspending Apple 30 to 1 in these areas, if not
more.
I'm not sure I understand what your point is. You're apparently not
interested in Silverlight's (lack of) importance to the future of the
Web. Do you believe a significant number of developers will stop writing
native OS X applications and develop for Silverlight instead? I
seriously doubt it.
These will be interesting platforms for some applications, but all in
all they're almost certainly not going to be much more significant than,
say, Flash. They'll probably mostly get used to implement things that
would have otherwise been done as desktop apps, not things that would
have otherwise been done on the web.
While I agree to a large extent, I find it interesting how Microsoft
is attacking the threat of the cross-platform browser "hole" in its
defenses head-on, with a better embeddable widget to make web
developers' lives easier.
What's slightly baffling is that it took them so long. This would have
been the natural move after stealing the browser market from Netscape.
Instead, Microsoft made minor browser improvements up to IE6 and then,
as nearly as one can tell from the results, disbanded its browser team
for five years.
In the intervening time period, HTML + JavaScript has emerged as the
dominant platform for OS-Independent apps, and the window of opportunity
for a close platform to dominate this market, assuming it ever existed,
is now firmly shut.
IOW, Microsoft squandered most of the strategic advantages of owning the
browser market.
Apple's bringing a knife (DashCode) to a gun fight.
Apple is smart enough to stay out of a fight that everyone is probably
going to lose.
Sun is apparently planning to get into this fight with a more open
approach. Maybe that'll go somewhere.
Microsoft is on track to delivering a platform that runs on Intel
Macs, PCs, WM6, and the xbox. That's one delicious platform.
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/7248/picture3uh2.png
Microsoft is slowly re-inventing Java, is what you're saying. I'd expect
it to turn out a little better, all these years later, but... Java
didn't have nearly the impact on the industry that its early proponents
claimed it would, and it's sort of silly so see some people making all
the same claims again for the new cross-platform middleware products.
--
"That's George Washington, the first president, of course. The interesting thing
about him is that I read three--three or four books about him last year. Isn't
that interesting?"
- George W. Bush to reporter Kai Diekmann, May 5, 2006
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