Re: Commercials protraying PC 20 years ago

On May 3, 6:10 pm, Snit <C...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Jesus" <rustybucket...@xxxxxxxxx> stated in post
1178229155.138785.130...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on 5/3/07 2:52 PM:



On May 3, 2:04 am, Snit <C...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Jesus" <rustybucket...@xxxxxxxxx> stated in post
Yes... it is consistent. One knows what to expect... not that losing data
is a good thing!

Well, technically, one should be able to expect that their apps will
never crash. :-)

One can *hope* for that... I do not expect it. :)

nor do I. There's always hope, though. :-)

I get the blank ones... but see below: what if you have all sorts of pages
open from one site?

Well, unless they're all named the same thing, they'll have different
titles. If they're all named the same thing, you'll have the same
problem finding the right page on OS X.

Often the names are in the form of "Site Name Here - Page Name Here". If
the button cuts off the last part you are stuck. Unless the name is wider
than the screen will allow, OS X works just fine with it.

Such a design is poor design choice on the part of the web designer,
as they should know that most computer users are using an interface
with a space-constrained taskbar.

Sure... but it is still pretty common. Some windows from a site I happen to
be on now (imagine cutting them off after, say, 10 or 20 characters)

Editorials & Opinion | Not just a tune-up, more domestic spying
| Seattle Times Newspaper

Editorials & Opinion | Neither sleet, nor snow, but maybe postal
rates | Seattle Times Newspaper

Such things are not that uncommon.

See how I have my desktop on my taskbar? Right-click an icon and pick
"Open file location". I have to ask, though... why?

How would I find where I you have Firefox installed?

Right-click Firefox, pick "Open file location", and Windows Explorer
opens with firefox.exe highlighted in the install folder.

You can do that if you have Firefox already available as a shortcut... but
what if it is merely opened?

Well, if you used the installer, you have the shortcuts. If you
didn't use the installer, you know where you installed it. ;-)

You do not always have shortcuts... they are either not put in by the
installer, deleted, or whatever. Yes, you might remember where you
installed it... if you installed it and not someone else. Still, no easy
way to just jump to it like there is in OS X. I use this quite a bit.

Yup. It's certainly a nice little feature. Microsoft probably won't
ever implement it, though.

As for why: there are many times on a Mac when I do use this... to delete
the program, to move a program, etc. Of course, you cannot do so directly
on a Windows machine... but even then what if I want to pin that program to
the Start menu or make an alias?

Pin to the start menu is done by right-clicking the shortcut in All
Programs and picking "Pin to Start Menu". No finding of executables
needed. For making a shortcut, you can copy the existing shortcut.

How do I get to the shortcut though? Say I open file X and it opens a
program. I have no shortcut to it... other than buried somewhere in the
Start button... maybe.

Again, the "average user" would be using an installer, meaning there
would be shortcuts in at least the Start menu.

Buried... yes (with exceptions... many installers allow you to pick if you
want it there).

The average user doesn't change anything from the default, though.
They just click "next" until they get hit with malware and they can't
anymore.

And then you have to know to right click items in a menu...
something people often do not know to do.

True.

No easy way to find where the program is to do that.

Yes there is. Right-click and pick "Open file location". :-)

On a Mac it is easy.

Just like on Windows in this case.

Incorrect - on the Mac you do not need to have a shortcut to easily be able
to make a shortcut. :)

True, but the mode of operation for the "average user" means that
there will always be shortcuts there unless the user deletes them, in
which case you have a valid point.

and to set the program to Open at Login (again, no
easy way for most users to do that on Windows).

That's handy for people who find the right-click menu... I'm guessing
not many do, though.

Just click and hold... many do find that.

Clicking and holding isn't very intuitive... people like instant
response. Holding isn't instant.

Well, Apple's now come with dual button mice. :)

MIGHTY MOUSE!

And a minor correction.. it is not a dual button rodent... that implied just
two.

Of course, some folks like 8 buttons... that is what I have. Hardly the
norm though.

Eight?! Why?

For new users, though, two button mice can be confusing. Heck, once I teach
the concept of right-clicking people "forget" how to left click. Maddening.

Sure is.

It is quicker than copying a shortcut to the Startup folder, though.

And to do that you will want to know where the program is... a reason right
there. :)

Nope. Copy an existing shortcut.

If you have one... and if not?

If not, you should stop being one of those stupid people who deletes
icons to speed up the computer.

I would love to have you sit in some of my classes. It is mind boggling how
much you and I and others in CSMA *do* know compared to many people. If you
do not work closely with new users you likely just cannot understand how
baffled they are by computers.

I try to avoid new users. They tend to piss me off after about the
twentieth time of telling them to stop double-clicking links. :-)

Is there one spot to check what's set to automatically start on boot,
though?
I'm sure there is... I just don't know where.

Glad to help... look in the Accounts preference pane.

D'oh! You're right! Now I remember. I even was in that preference
pane this morning blocking GarageBand for a public account. (People
were playing with GarageBand and not doing work... glad it's so easy
to block apps)

Yes... I use that at a high school.

--
€ There is no known malware that attacks OS X in the wild
€ There are two general types of PCs: Macs and PCs (odd naming conventions!)
€ Mac OS X 10.x.x is a version of Mac OS


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