Re: XP: Cool feature with a weakness

On 15/4/07 1:59 PM, in article C2470D44.7D49E%SNIT@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
"Snit" <SNIT@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Wally" <wally@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> stated in post
C247D729.324A5%wally@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on 4/14/07 10:20 PM:

On 15/4/07 12:27 AM, in article C2464F18.7D378%SNIT@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
"Snit" <SNIT@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Sandman" <mr@xxxxxxxxxxx> stated in post
mr-783DED.11230614042007@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on 4/14/07 2:23 AM:

In article <C245CC77.7D31E%SNIT@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Snit <SNIT@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

It doesn't work for me. That is, the keyboard shortcut works just fine
of course, but if I switch user, the setting does not follow. If I set
my admin, or non-admins screen to be zoomed in and reversed (call it
mode X), and switch to another account, the screen will revert back to
normal (mode A). If I change things in that account as well (mode Y),
the screen will switch to mode X when "fast user" swithing to the
first user and go to mode A when I go to the login screen.

MacBook Pro, OSX 10.4.9
PowerMac G5, OSX 10.4.9

What about the Login window? Does it "inherit" the effects from either an
admin or non-admin user?

The answer to that question is contained within the paragraph above.

My mistake. Thanks. Your testing disagrees with what Steve claimed (he
specifically claimed it *did* effect the login screen):

Do you know what "specifically" means Snit?
Where did Steve specifically claimed it *did* effect the login screen?

I had noted about XP machines in a lab:

Here is the weakness: I can change the orientation from my
user account, even a non-Admin, and the orientation will
stay altered even when I log out...

As I discussed that, Steve stated:

Do you have any thoughts on the fact that, at least in the case I
described, a non-Admin user can alter settings for other users?
As can they alter settings on a Mac. Big f*cking deal.

That does not refer specifically to the login screen as in the case that you
have quoted above Steve is shown to be responding to you talking about
*login out*!

Login out? What do you mean?

Look above!...Oh wait let me save you the stress...

"and the orientation will stay altered even when I log out..."-Snit

There is nothing specific to the login screen there!, when Steve responded
as you say above that he did you would have to have wrongly 'assumed' that
his comments refered to the login screen!


You are assuming that he 'believes' that it carries over to the login screen
and in an effort to convince others you are as always willing to lie to
achieve that end!

But, as you note above, on OS X a user cannot do that. Steve was simply
wrong. Steve also said, of OS X:

I can, from a user account, hold down the control, option
and Apple keys on a modern Mac while pressing the number 8
and it will "screw with" others (who may want to run
graphics apps or whatever)... and it'll stay that way when I
log out. There is no video card in this equation... but I
guess you'll say it's OK due to the 'consistency'. LOL!

But, again, Steve is wrong, at least based on all accounts from others - if
a user presses the control+option+command+8 and goes to "black on white"
mode, the effect does not carry over to the login screen.

"....and it'll stay that way when I log out."-Steve Carroll

Still no sign of Steve mentioning the 'login screen' specifically Snit!

Mention? Who said he "mentioned" it? He made a very specific claim...

My, oh my, oh my, you believe that Steve can make a specific claim about
something .....without actually mentioning it? LOL

Thank you for the admission that 'specifically' is another word that has you
bluffed!....'teacher' LOL!

and
here you are playing semantic games trying to save your co-troll buddy from
his lies. How cute! I did not say he specifically used those words.

Snit wrote...

"Your testing disagrees with what Steve claimed (he
specifically claimed it *did* effect the login screen):"-Snit

Hahahhaha too funny!

So Snit where did Steve specifically claim that it *did* effect the login
screen?
And remember that any source that you conjure up must now according to you
have Steve making the claim without mentioning that which the claim is
about!....Good luck! ROTFLMAO!

When
one logs out they go to a very specific screen... at least on OS X. That
screen *is* the login screen.

Really? And you claim to teach people OS X?

Snit the log out screen merely asks for confirmation or cancel whereas the
log in screen provides a whole lot more options!

The only connection between those two screens is that they are a product of
the same OS and they appear on the same monitor! get a grip of yourself
Snit!

In reference to my comments about a user being able to alter the
login screen, I asked:

Mentioning the login screen as you do above is far too late Snit!

Your OP didn¹t mention it...

"Here is the weakness: I can change the orientation from my user account,
even a non-Admin, and the orientation will stay altered even when I log
out..."-Snit

Do you have any thoughts on the fact that, at least in the case I
described, a non-Admin user can alter settings for other users?
And Steve replied:
As can they alter settings on a Mac. Big f*cking deal.

Nor do you refer to the login screen there, merely altering settings for
other users! Any assertion that Steve was claiming anything wrt a login
screen was merely a product of your imagination which is why you cannot find
any example of Steve claiming what you say that he did!

From the same post as your example above...

"A) You had no real comment in relation to my point about how a
non-admin user in XP can screw with other users."-Snit

Steve replied...

"So what? You "can screw with other users" on a Mac, too. Got a point
yet, Mr. "Mac advocate"?"-Steve Carroll

Still no claim specifically associated with the login screen!

And in the next post from you Snit to Steve did you take the opportunity to
explain that you were in reference to the login screen after Steve had
said...

"As can they alter settings on a Mac. Big f*cking deal."-Steve Carroll

Of course you didn¹t you said...

"How can a non-Admin user alter settings for other users on a Mac...
Assuming they are not, of course, using an admin ID and password!"-Snit

Nothing about a 'login screen' Snit! LOL!

Steve did not specifically mention the login screen at all Snit!
No great surprise that you need to lie about that is there!

Let me nip your trolling in the bud now: I am *not* interested in one of
your asinine semantic games where you whine about some definition of
"specifically" you hand pick which allows you to claim some idiotic
"victory".

If someone states that something was specifically claimed I expect them to
be able to at least show where it was specifically claimed, so far your
response is to insist that it was specifically claimed but ...not mentioned,
resulting in you not being able to show where this specific claim was made!

You have done that repeatedly in the past with words such as
"synonymous" and, frankly, I have no desire to join you in such games again!

You have not improved any if that's what you mean...'teacher' LOL!

Now you are trying to pretend that Steve did not refer to the login screen

I'm not pretending anything! I cannot confirm this specific claim that you
mention so I asked you where it occurred...in the absence of you providing
this information I assume that any pretence as to it's existence is from
you!

even though I was very clear and specific about what screen I was in
reference to - the login screen - and Steve made it clear that he believed
OS X users could effect that just like the could on XP (as I show, above).

"A) You had no real comment in relation to my point about how a
non-admin user in XP can screw with other users."-Snit

"So what? You "can screw with other users" on a Mac, too. Got a point
yet, Mr. "Mac advocate"?"-Steve Carroll

There is no reference to the login screen in the quote that you have
provided nor in the one above!

If you do try to push such games with the word "specifically", do not expect
me to do anything other than copy and paste the above...

I don't expect anything better from you Snit after all according to you
Steve specifically claimed something by *not* mentioning it that is how far
your argument has degraded.....cut'n'paste is all you have left! ROTFLMAO!

not worth my time
to reword how stupid your games are over and over and over....

Compared to using your time to reword peoples 'claims' Snit? :-)

just to have you pretend to not be able to understand!

There is no pretense necessary to see that you can have someone specifically
claim something ......by *not* mentioning it Snit :-)

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