Re: Bootcamp & Parallels driving Apple Market Share Increase in the U.S.

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"John Slade" <hhitman86@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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On Mar 20, 10:18 pm, Snit <S...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"John Slade" <hhitma...@xxxxxxxxxxx> stated in post
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Maverick wrote:

And it will be what M$ won't want... an actual comparison between
o/ses
right on the users machine. Vista will require AV software and
malware
removal tools and OS X won't. It won't take long for the average
user
to
finally see just how badly written Vista really is. Word will
spread.

Yep, it'll be a win-win for Apple. Microsoft will be happy for the
Vista
revenue, and will be hard-pressed to come up with a coherent reason
to
not
support Apple.

The issue is support. But Windows has progressively required less
and
less
support ever since XP replaced ME and '98, so it won't be as bad as
many
uninformed people think.

It's not a win-win for Apple. More people using Windows on their
Macs
will realize they don't need to reboot into OS X. In fact most won't
even
need OS X. So OS X will get even less popular than it is now.

What makes you come to those conclusions? Anything?

His successful use of Windows, to say nothing of its succussful use by
over 660 million users, make him come to those conclusions.


It's possible... but I think it's safe to assume that if someone bothers
to buy a computer from Apple they've checked out OSX a bit and they're
probably already disenchanted with Windows and the path that Vista is
taking it. Besides running Windows, what's in it for the user buying an
Apple computer?

You have it backwards. People who would never buy a Mac will now buy one
because it does run Windows.

I don't believe I have it backwards... IMO they'll be buying a Mac
because it will *also* run Windows. As Macs were not designed with
Windows in mind, it makes little sense for a person to own a Mac to run
only Windows on it. These people "who would never buy a Mac" before were
*already* running Windows... they're not buying a Mac to *only* run
Windows on it, they're doing so to run OSX apps as well.

When I say "people", I mean some people not all
of them.

Mainly, it's OSX and the apps that can be run under it.

I would say now. However in the future, people may realize they cand do
more with XP, 2000 and Vista than they can with OS X.

Pure conjecture. As I see it, the idea that people will come to some
kind of stark realization about OSX down the road isn't reality. It's
the kinds of things they can do in OSX that they can't do in other OSes
that is appealing up front, that's what prompts them to even look at the
Mac. For example, I run OSX due to its audio capabilities that neither
Vista or any Linux distro can currently touch. If you really like a
particular piece of OSX software, say, FCP or Digital Performer...
you'll need OSX to run it. Personally, I don't mind paying more for a
box that will let me do that along with any of the Windows/Linux stuff
I'd like to run. I expect these are the kinds of users Apple will be
picking up. I've seen a good number of Win-switchers in Apple's stores
that were goo goo eyed over iLife of all things. I don't think OSX is
going to have as much of a struggle as you seem to feel it will. People
don't care about OSes... they care about apps and what they can do with
them. If a Mac can have them running the lion's share of whatever
Windows/Linux software they want to run and *also* run all the Mac apps
out there... then that's a nice selling point for Apple... one that is
translating into sales as we speak.

If this doesn't interest a user, why buy an Apple at all when a better
deal can likely be found in the world of PC commodities that was
designed with Windows as the OS?

You see back when Macs weren't PCs, few people bought them.

Relatively speaking, few people still buy them and I don't see that
changing in a big way any time soon. To me, that's a good thing... so
long as the numbers are large enough to continue to attract the
development community.

That's why
they're only about 4% of the computing world. Todays Macs are PCs but
they're still overpriced. So they don't stand to gain much from their switch
to making PCs.

I agree... they'll really only appeal to people who want the luxury of
running the 2 or 3 most mainstream OSes better than any other hardware
out there... for that you'll pay a premium. I paid it and I'm happy as
hell about it. No more going to the PC to test web pages... on this MBP
pro I hold a key while pressing 'enter' and I'm there.

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"I do not KF people" - Snit
"Not only do I lie about what others are claiming,
I show evidence from the records".-Snit
"You should take one of my IT classes some day." - Snit
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engage in legal, consensual,adult incestuous relationships, the whole
idea of incest with minors becomes thinkable." - Snit
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