Re: Apple issues warning on Vista

On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:30:41 -0600, Maverick <Sun@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Donald L McDaniel wrote:

On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:13:25 -0600, Maverick <Sun@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Snit wrote:


"Mitch" <mitch@xxxxxxxxx> stated in post 110320071410000299%mitch@xxxxxxxxx
on 3/11/07 5:10 PM:



In article <rqc6v29b1jarf5ki7hihlbg6qtvkragolr@xxxxxxx>, Donald L
McDaniel <orthocross@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



Apple actually MAKES a "standard keyboard"?

NOBODY makes a "standard keyboard" -- there has never been any such
thing.

By "Standard keyboard", I mean "one designed for Microsoft Windows".



You're thinking like a Windows user, not as an informed user.

YOU sir, seem to be the one who has FAILED to inform himself.


Because in your own opinion, the word "standard" is the same as being
"made for Windows"? Are you kidding?


He used the word "standard" to mean a de facto standard... a usage which
was, technically, incorrect. He was asked about it and he clarified what he
meant. To focus on this nit and not the general point is a sign that you
believe his general point is correct but you do not like it.



The idea that there has to be a driver pulled from compressed files for
all hardware is not true in the Mac world. There are not explicit
drivers (and driver variants, and different driver builders or builds)
in that way. It's one of the BIG differences when you use Mac.

Once we have installed Vista or XP, and are on their desktops, we are NOT in
the "Mac" (by this I take it you mean "OS X") world, Mitch.

My mistake, probably. I thought you were working in the OS X
environment when you extracted those, since you couldn't be working in
the Windows environment yet.



So PLEASE inform yourself BEFORE finding fault with me.

I don't mind correction. But the "correction" must be "correct" first.
A little research will pay huge dividends in the end, sir.

It wasn't research I needed, sir, it was the context of your approach.
I know how to work in Windows and in Mac OS -- but I haven't installed
Boot Camp, and never will need to.


I know I will install Parallels and, perhaps, Boot Camp. Some people can
make use of it and I am glad the availability is there. I do wish Apple
would work with MS and get the Macs capable of running Vista. I suspect we
will see that with 10.5... when Boot Camp leaves its beta stage (and,
perhaps, changes its name).


I'll bet that Vista is so badly mangled with NSA back doors that the
APIs won't work correctly. This seems to be a common mark on M$.
Right now, NSA can easily get access to a Vista PC that is connected to
the internet. I sure wouldn't want Vista on a Mac. If I had to use
Windows, I'd get a wintel PC and keep the two isolated from each other.
And of course keep all of my confidential correspondence on the Mac.


Well, sir, since I have nothing to hide from our government, I have nothing to
fear from the NSA, or any other government agency. So even if your accusation
is true, I really don't care.

It isn't the "I've got nothing to hide", it is your constitutional
rights that are being violated. All it takes is the first step towards
abuse,... just a little bit, no one will notice type of abuse. Later it
will just get worse if people don't stop it now.


As St. Paul tells us, "If you obey the authorities, you will have nothing to
fear from them, and instead will receive praise from them; but if you disobey
them, you will have every cause to fear their reprisal, for they do not bear the
sword of justice in vain, but do so at the Creator's express will." (my free
paraphrase).

Even Rome fell. As so will this country if the people don't exert their
own authority over those they voted in.

There really is a simple solution to that, you know: Give the government no
cause to become paranoid of its own citizenry, and they will have no cause to
violate our rights (whether they are right in thinking they do have that right
or not). As T. Jefferson states in the Declaration of Independence, "a People
has the right to rise up in arms against their rulers if they violate their
rights and misuse their trust" (free paraphrase).

There is also another solution, albeit a purely temporary one: Vote the
bastards out of office!!! Hopefully, this will happen in 2008. And equally
hopefully, the new guard won't be more corrupt than the old one.

But I see no possibility of either happening any time soon, because the entire
citizenry, as well as the government, has become corrupt to the core. Our
citizenry can only put into office those who reflect their own inner characters.
If the citizenry cleans up its act, so will the government. If they refuse to,
they are only asking for their rights to be further violated. Good or bad,
this is still the way it is. The sooner we each face the reality of our own
corruption, the sooner the mess will be cleaned up.

The government is not going to do it voluntarily, as long as we refuse to do it
ourselves. And the citizenry are not going to do it voluntarily, until they see
their own corruption.

The changes have to happen in the hearts of men, one at a time. Making more and
more laws (or changing the laws) will NEVER change the character of the inner
man. If History has proven ANYTHING, it has certainly proven that. Law can
only hold back the evil in men for a time, until those men lose their fear of
the consequences of breaking the Law, at which point they will just do what
pleases themselves, whether it is lawful or not.

Such is the corrupt nature of men and governments.

I see no solution until the Creator Himself intervenes (however He chooses to).
Which I believe He will do (soon, I hope). Until then, things will only get
worse and worse, because that it is the nature of the Universe: it is subject
to corruption, being composed of matter, which is itself subject to corruption,
not to positive change.

You may not see it this way. And I certainly honor your decision not to, if
that is your decision.

Donald L McDaniel
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