Re: Apple issues warning on Vista

Donald L McDaniel wrote:

On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 10:00:13 -0800, Steve de Mena <steven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:


Donald L McDaniel wrote:

On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 23:26:39 -0800, Steve de Mena <steven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:


Donald L McDaniel wrote:

On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 21:23:57 -0700, Maverick <Sun@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Steve de Mena wrote:


MC360 wrote:


On Feb 5, 3:14 pm, Steve de Mena <ste...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


iMojo wrote:


In article <clund-9B90F8.11063104022...@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
C Lund <c...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


In article <iadvocate-6F1074.08505903022...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
iMojo <iadvoc...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:


According to a notice posted on Apple's Web site, compatibility problems
include the inability to play music or video purchased from the online
iTunesstore, difficulties synchronizing contacts and calendars and
possible failures of iPods plugged into aVistacomputer.

I wonder if this will have any effect onVistasales?

Definitely. 150,000,000 iPods sold worldwide. Even if half (it's
probably more like 3/4) are windoze users, that's 75,000,000 PC's
runningiTunes.

Apple should have these issues resolved by the
time ofVista'srelease. I think they
intentionally sat on this.

Steve

Vista has been out in beta for almost a year. Apple had plenty of time
to resolve these issues. Don't think for a moment that this wasn't
planned by Apple. All these hastles with Vista and iTunes, this is the
experience that Apple wants new Vista users to have in an attempt to
sway more users to opt into buying a Mac. The big picture here, Apple
wants a bigger chunk of the home computing market & they are using the
popularity of their iPods against Microsoft in an attempt to create
more negative publicity for Microsoft. Apple isn't squeaky clean here,
not by a long shot.


If they want a "bigger chunk", they are ONLY going to be able to get it from us
Windows users. Their OS X customers obviously will never be able to give them
a "bigger chunk". So they would do well to start taking care of us a little
better, if they want OUR business.


Why isn't Apple public announcing their Vista support plans, i.e. when and if Boot Camp will support it and be a part of Leopard, etc. I guess most think their "secrecy" is cool and adds to their mystique, but it doesn't help us customers.


Why should Apple care about its customers who use Windows on their Apple
computers, anyway? But they sure LOVE to take our money when we buy iPods and
billions of downloads from their Apple iTunes store, don't they? And they SURE
want a "bigger chunk" (which will come from us Windows users, not their elitist
little pigdroid population which buys one of their computers every 5-10 years).

Frakin' jerks!


Even their little "fix" which they claim on their website works in Vista is only
for "XP". They FIX iTunes and QuickTime so that Vista users can use their
iTunes libraries, and STILL say it is only for XP.


Maybe it is because Apple can't get Vista loaded and running either.
:-))


If Apple has problems installing Vista, their programmers are either extremely
inept, or simply blind and uninformed, or Mr. Jobs has ordered them to "FIND
difficulty installing Vista".

If I had no problems doing it, I'm absolutely sure they can. So they have no
real excuse.

I certainly don't believe they are technically inept, since their computers are
the best out there (as usual, I separate their idiotic OS from their fantastic
computers in MY thinking and writing).

No, Steve... They haven't announced anything (or even admitted to Vista's
general release to the public) about Vista plans for PURELY "political" reasons.

The fact is, they just HATE us, but LOVE our money. From my way of thinking, as
long as they act hatefully toward me, they will NEVER get my money. So they
better clean up their act REAL soon.


I never had any problems installing Vista on my Apple Intel PC. In fact, it went
on as easy as it was to wipe OS X off the HD -- that is, EXTREMEMLY easy.

Anyone who is having problems doing it is simply listening to ALL the wrong
advice, or has absolutely no idea how to install ANY OS. They should take their
machines to techs who know how to do it.

Donald L McDaniel
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I don't think my keyboard (MacBook Pro laptop keyboard) was fully supported in Vista running with Boot Camp drivers (things like right-click functions). Maybe it works better on Apple Intel Macs with standard keyboards.


The Apple Pro keyboard (the white one) works fine in either XP or Vista with
the Macintosh keyboard driver for XP.

By the way, what does the Boot Camp XP keyboard driver have to do with
right-click? OH, yeah, the "buttons" on the Mouse Pad... Sorry, forgot about
those. But wouldn't they be covered by the mouse driver instead? I've never
owned a laptop of any kind, so such things never enter my mind.

If you want right-click in Vista, get a decent mouse for your Macintosh, such as
a Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer 4, and install the latest Microsoft drivers.

But if I'm not mistaken, my brother's Intel MacBook worked fine with Vista
installed, either with the mouse-pad, or an external mouse, and the
click-functions worked just fine.


Steve

Apple actually MAKES a "standard keyboard"?

Perhaps you don't know how to extract the Macintosh Drivers for XP disk to your
HD and install the drivers one by one..

I thought you had more on the ball than that, Steve..

The MacBook Pro *LAPTOP* is missing keys that are on the full keyboard. And there is no right mouse button.


That has nothing to do with Microsoft. That Apple chooses to use a non-standard
keyboard is THEIR fault, not Microsoft's. And that they have still failed to
release Vista drivers for their hardware is also their fault. Vista has been
fixed in bit-content since Nov 6, 2006 (and probably a week before that), so
they can't use the excuse of "the bits are always changing". They've had
plenty of time to write Vista Drivers. After all, Vista drivers don't need THAT
much change, if the XP drivers seem to work pretty well in Vista already. This
is why I am firmly convinced that the reason for no Vista drivers yet is purely
"political", and has nothing to do with "the bits are always changing".

Get a Windows keyboard. It will work as it should. However, it won't have a
hardware CD-Eject key under Windows. I have YET to be able to find any
non-Apple keyboards which do, in several years of searching, except for a single
HP keyboard. But I don't know whether the CD-Eject key works with a non-HP
computer or CD/DVD drive. I don't know if it works under OS X, either.

The Microsoft Wireless Desktop Deluxe's (both Bluetooth and USB wireless)
special keys can be remapped to various OS X keys using the Microsoft 6.x
Desktop software for OS X, including the CD-Eject key. Or, there are several
software keyboard remappers available (usually bought very cheaply, or free for
the download) which include mapping the special keys (or almost ANY key, for
that matter) to various Windows functions, such as opening/closing the CD/DVD
drive (even slot-loaded drives like the Apple SuperDrive, which has no Eject
button). At least standard slot-loaded drives have hardware Eject buttons
beside them. But Apple has to "think different" (read: NON-STANDARD).

If Apple wants more of our money, they are going to have to learn to get along
with us. This means working the way WE work, not the way THEY want us to, like
the rest of their PigDroids do.

Windows users do NOT walk in lock-step with ANYONE. And we will NEVER do it
for Apple, either.

If we don't like the way Microsoft does it, or wants us to do it, we ALWAYS
find a way to do it OUR way. If we become Apple customers, we certainly won't
change that attitude for them.

This is something MacDroids can't seem to understand about us. Too bad.

Maybe we ARE "pigheaded". So be it.
But I guarantee you, Apple won't win this one.


No, you are just stupid and brainwashed. Or, you just might be one the thousands of wintrolls that infest usenet.
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