Re: Price Experiment - Home Office
- From: Josh McKee <jtmckee@xxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 16:23:59 -0600
In article <jpolaski-FCA31E.01065907092006@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Jim Polaski <jpolaski@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <jtmckee-50121E.14534206092006@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Josh McKee <jtmckee@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <jpolaski-D7BFD7.12484506092006@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Jim Polaski <jpolaski@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <1157557670.660844.226980@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
tom_elam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Need - desktop machine with expansion capabilites to run MS Office,
email and Web browsing. Occassional use for photo editing and site
maintenance. Minimum 20" LCD screen. All of these machines will do
the job.
Mac Pro
Part Number: Z0D8
NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 256MB (single-link DVI/dual-link DVI)
Apple Keyboard and Mighty Mouse - U.S. English
1GB (2 x 512MB)
Two 2GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon
Accessory kit
160GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
One 16x SuperDrive
Mac OS X - U.S. English
AppleCare Protection Plan for Mac Pro/Power Mac (w/or w/o Display) -
Auto-enroll
Apple Cinema Display (20" flat panel)
$3,172.00
OR,
iMac, 20-inch, Intel Core 2 Duo
Part Number: Z0DH
ATI Radeon X1600/128MB VRAM
Final Cut Express HD preinstalled
Apple USB Modem
1GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 2x512
250GB Serial ATA Drive
Apple Keyboard & Mighty Mouse + Mac OS X (US English)
Accessory kit
2.16GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
SuperDrive 8X (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
AppleCare Protection Plan for iMac - Auto-enroll
$2,016
Dell:
PROCESSOR Pentium® D Processor 930 with Dual Core Technology (3.0GHz,
800FSB) OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows® XP Media Center Edition 2005
MEMORY 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz (2x512M)
HARD DRIVE 160GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/ 8MB cache
OPTICAL DRIVE Single Drive: 16X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer
write capability
MONITORS 20 inch UltraSharp? 2007FPW Widescreen Digital Flat Panel
VIDEO CARD 128MB PCI Express? x16 (DVI/VGA/TV-out) ATI Radeon X300 SE
HyperMemory
SOUND CARD Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio
Accessories
SPEAKERS Dell A225 Speakers
KEYBOARD & MOUSE Dell USB Keyboard and Dell 2-button Scroll Mouse
BACK TO SCHOOL ESSENTIALS Paint Shop Photo Album 5 Deluxe Edition w/
Dell Digital Camera Starter Kit
FLOPPY & MEDIA READER No Floppy Drive Included
MODEM 56K PCI Data Fax Modem
OPTIONAL PORTS IEEE 1394 Adapter
Software
DELL DIGITAL ENTERTAINMENT Deluxe pack- Music & photo: Corel Photo
Album, MusicMatch Plus, Games
Service
HARDWARE WARRANTY 3Yr Ltd Warr,At-Home Service,and HW Warr Support plus
Nights and Weekends
Adobe Software Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 7.0
Network Card Integrated Intel® PRO 10/100 Ethernet
Future Operating Systems Windows Vista? Capable
$1,577
The Dell has much more capability than the iMac, and costs half the
Apple Mac Pro price.
Why would you compare your Dull to an Mac Pro when all you need for the
tasks mentioned is an iMac 20"? Why would you need "expansion" to run
Office? iMacs do that out-of-the box with no added "expansion".
Those are his requirements. You may not agree with them but there they
are. And Apple cannot meeting them at a lower cost.
Josh
hold your horses there. Time was you winnuts complained that Macs had
too much stuff thrown in and thus cost too much.
I'd be interested in your providing a quote that shows me doing that as
I have been advocating Macs for quite some time.
Here, tommie the troll has set his hardware needs far above what his requirements
need to operate on todays computers, so that a stock iMac can do everything in his
"home office" demands.
Air is waster on you isn't it Jim? You're obviously missing the point.
The only thing that matters here is the expansion requirement. It is
that requirement, and that requirement alone, which knocks the iMac out
of consideration. You can argue to your blue in the face whether this is
a valid requirement but it is a requirement.
Can't have it both ways....but you try.
I don't try anything. Personally I think these price comparisons are
pointless. I bought a MacBook not because it was the lowest cost. But
because I wanted one. For reasons which I do not have to explain to
anyone. It's what I wanted so it's what I bought. And that's all a Mac
user needs to say to anyone who questions their choice (unless that
person is picking up the tab). But I do think that Apple has a huge hole
in their product line. While the iMac is a nice system its has very
limited internal expansion capability. In order to get something that
has even the most basic expansion capability one has to buy a quad
processor Mac Pro at a minimum cost of $2,000. Why can't Apple offer
something in the iMac price range in a tower case? I think the answer
can be traced back to the origins of the original Macintosh:
http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=Diagnostic_P
ort.txt&topic=Hardware%20Design&sortOrder=Sort%20by%20Date&detail=medium
Josh
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