Re: Own your own nuke... Snit says it's OK!!!

Snit wrote:

"GreyCloud" <mist@xxxxxxxxxxx> stated in post
4t-dnUYc9b_Wa2XZnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxx on 9/1/06 8:11 PM:


In a ways, the outlaws are those that break the non-proliferation
treaty, and both North Korea and Iran are outlaws in the worlds eyes.

I would agree. It is a tricky position to be the only country in the
world
that has used a nuke telling others they cannot have one.

And most likely found out the true problems of owning them as well.
Places like Hanford, and Rocky Flats, OakRidge, are pretty much off
limits to become viable neighborhoods in the future. Sometimes I wish
they never took the genie out of the bottle.

I wonder what the world would be like if nukes had not ended up working.
WWII would likely not be much different... but the cold war may have been.
We will, of course, never know.

One thing would have been certain in WWII without any nukes... we'd have
lost quite a few more lives than what the nukes did.

I know there is disagreement with that - but I do not know enough WWII
history to have a strong opinion one way or the other. If we would have had
to have a ground war to end the war though, it is pretty clear more
*American* lives would have been lost.

There would have had to be a massive ground invasion. You always lose a
lot of people that way.


No doubt... American, Japanese military, and civilian. That is assuming the
only two options were ground invasion or to drop both bombs.

But I noticed a new phenomena that did take place... a clamp down on
what really happened in WWII in regards to associations between
countries. NSA used to have a site, not sure if it is still there,
where their history only goes up to 1945, but not all things got
declassified. A few interesting tales could certainly be told if the
truth be known.

Of course, how much of what the NSA tells people is the truth anyway? We
will never know. Different people who went through WWII have very different
stories - as with any time in history.

They tell the truth of what is declassified. Trouble is that the
information is so old that it wouldn't matter much to anyone. After
1945, there are whole buildings full of classified materials and even
then that is only a smattering. The rest usually ended up in burn bags.


Just imagine how hard it will be 100 years from now... there is a lot more
information now, no doubt. Heck, how long until all the phone calls they
listen to are "declassified"? Yeah, I know, they tell us now they are not
being recorded... who knows for sure. Heck, I doubt they let them go
immediately - if they want to dig up data they may need to back track some
time.


A lot of magnetic tapes got degaussed for reuse back then. The few that were of interest got sealed up in cans and stored in warehouses. Somewhere there is a list of which is what and where stored. How long magnetic media will last I don't know, but doubt that anything from the 50s is usable anymore.
Right now, our video stored on magnetic tape (high resolution video at that) of the moon landings are lost and no one knows where they are. Priceless history lost due to bungling fools, and we paid for them.

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