Re: In the Shallow End
- From: ZnU <znu@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 17:39:54 -0400
In article <12dn8sqevkfh43b@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"Dan Johnson" <danieljohnson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"ZnU" <znu@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:znu-C41E3F.11432410082006@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[snip]
There's not much info about CoreAnimation out yet, but from the
tidbits there are, I think that what this is, is an API to manipulate
the Quartz Compositor, thereby allowing 3rd party developers to build
stuff like Expose. This is the tool tha tmakes the Whizzy UI possible
for 3rd parties.
But the 'deep' part was done a couple of versions ago.
Your definition of "deep" frankly seems entirely arbitrary. This is like
me saying, well, everything Microsoft is doing with .NET now isn't
interesting, because they implemented the CLI years ago.
Hmmm. I'm drawing a line between "shallow" UI and
"deep" infrastructure. Is that so arbitrary?
Somewhat. I would say Core Animation, since it is, after all, an
operating system API, is on the infrastructure side, but you evidently
disagree.
[snip]
I notice the Steve did not try to promise this; I infer there's
still doubt about whether Q2DE will be there. One way
this could be is that after all this time they *have* finished it-
and found it doesn't really make things any faster.
Except it does, even on systems with fairly fast CPUs and fairly slow
video. I posted benchmarks the last time we had this discussion.
Apple also had benchmarks, at the WWDC two years ago.
That doesn't mean it panned out in the end. Maybe they finished
it and it didn't benefit typical user patterns, however good the
benchmark numbers were.
Or maybe they couldn't finish it for some reason. Or maybe
they had to pull the team off it to work on the Intel Switch.
But it's hard to believe they'd not pad the Leopard Preview
with something this cool, if they could demo it or even
promise it. They really needed to have something.
The entire point of the feature is that it's invisible; it produces
exactly the same results as software rendering. Not exactly great demo
material, compared with e.g. Core Animation.
More surprising is that resolution independance was not
promised. Maybe they feel the app vendors are not ready;
maybe something went wrong with development and it is
still not demoable. But it would have been a spiffy, visually
attractive demo for the keynote, and I was surprised not to
see it.
The feature itself has worked fine since Tiger; my guess is Apple is
still waiting on the apps.
No; this feature is *most certainly* not working in Tiger. Not
even for stuff like the Finder; visual glitches everywhere.
The feature in the graphics engine works. Applications, including
bundled ones, aren't updated in Tiger.
Maybe we didn't see a Leopard demo because demoing it would require
revealing other Leopard features Apple doesn't want to show anyone yet.
(Like the new Finder that's likely in the works.)
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