Re: Nothing new or exciting in Leopard
- From: "Dan Johnson" <danieljohnson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 05:04:43 -0700
"Snit" <SNIT@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"Dan Johnson" <danieljohnson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> stated in post
12dkog68apidib8@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on 8/10/06 6:33 AM:
Minor cosmetic details?
Mail: copied in much of the layout
You mean Apple copied the layout of Outlook
Express, right? :D
Nope. Though I do suppose both a pretty basic three panel layouts -
nothing
shocking in their similarity. But MS did split their monolith. Why?
I take it from the change of subject that you realize
that Outlook Express has the same sort of three pane
layout Mail has used since Tiger.
I do not know what you mean about "splitting their monolith";
so far as I can see, Windows Mail is simply Outlook Express
in a glass frame with a less misleading name.
From the screenies, it appears to have almost exactly the sameUI as it ever did, and it seems to still combine news and mail
into one "monolith".
Spotlight: strong similarities, even though search was an inevitable
evolution
Yes. They could have made a much better case of this than
comparing Spotlight to the *Start Menu*.
It was not just the Start Menu - it was the Start Menu in ... well,
Spotlight mode.
Mac OS X *doesn't have this feature*. They actually mentioned,
in the keynote, that they might do something like this- some kind
of Spotlight-based app launcher capability.
No details given though. Perhaps they'll just copy the
Vista start menu. :D
Anyway, they should have compared Spotlight to Vista's new
search, which as I understand it actually is rather Spotlightish.
iCal: again, very much the same - even similar colors (assuming those
are
default)
It's not clear to me how they could have had very substantially
different colors, though. You were expecting Microsoft's calendar
to use flesh tone and gray maybe? :D
No, I am not at all shocked they copied Apple.
:D
[snip]
Old versions of Aqua used transparency as a way to
mark inactive windows, but even then it did not look
like Aero Glass.
The concepts Aero uses are clearly inspired by OS X.
You keep saying it, but you're not making a good case
for it.
Neither did Apple. They should have made a better one;
it's not like Vista has borrowed nothing at all!
The *aqua* bubble - Apple is right about how comical that is.
That was perhaps the weakest comparison of the lot;
they apparently think that just being *round* is something
somehow stolen from Apple!
Being round? Is that all you saw in the aqua bubble? If so I suggest an
iTest. :)
It's round, but it doesn't look like an Aqua widget at all.
Heck, most of the Aqua stuff is lozenge shaped, not
circular.
It is absurd. Violet bubbles do not appear in Apple's
UI. It doesn't even look like a ripoff.
LOL! You can tell yourself that. Listen to the laughter in the room
during
that bit ... you are clearly in the minority.
Bertrand has good delivery, but it's still a very weak
comparison.
The look of widgets / gadgets... even the name is similar
The name is similar; the UI is different, though, with
a "sidebar" instead of a "dashboard".
Look at the widgets / gadgets. Tell me you could tell which OS they
belonged with.
Since neither has even the slightlest hint of UI consistency,
that's a hopeless task. :/
[snip]
I know lots of people are saying Vista is a Mac OS X
rip-off. There's some truth in it, but the keynote's attempt
to riff on this was lame.
It was a few second visual display in a demo.
They spent a surprisingly long time on this. Minutes.
It's bad salemanship to ding MS for its copycat ways if
you are going to turn around and promise nothing *but*
copied features for Leopard.
But they did not.
Well, I should say that by the standards people apply to
MS, almost everything in there had been done by someone
before Apple.
Time Machine is incremental backup; shipping in XP
from the beginning, not to mention every other respectable
OS.
Spaces are virtual desktops. Nearly every Unix has had
this for years.
iChat's enhancements are a "clear" knockoff of NetMeeting.
Microsoft shipped their 64-bit OSes years ago.
OE has been doing e-mail stationary for years.
I'm not saying Apple's wrong to ship this stuff, but
it's a bit lame to bash MS as they did, then turn around
and come up with this... this... total void of innovation.
[snip]
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