Re: Microsoft's iPod killer to provide free versions of all your iTunes tracks

In article <1152258014.934529.295090@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"Edwin" <thorne25@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Jim Polaski wrote:
In article <1152236838.982462.61710@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"Edwin" <thorne25@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Jim Polaski wrote:
In article <1152218080.958057.241660@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"Edwin" <thorne25@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Jim Polaski wrote:
In article <1152212767.891557.11210@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"Super Spinner" <Pepe.Smythe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I found this by way of digg:

http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/06/microsoft-planning-wifi-enabled
-por
tabl
e-me
dia-player-working-o/

<quote>
**Microsoft planning WiFi-enabled portable media player, working
on
MVNO for next year**
...
...
To attract current iPod users Microsoft is going to let you
download
for free any songs you've already bought from the iTunes Music
Store.
They'll scan iTunes for purchased tracks and then automatically
add
those to your account. Microsoft will still have to pay the
rights-holders for the songs, but they believe it'll be worth it
to
converts.
...
...
</quote>

ZOWEEEEE!!

The article has other details on Microsoft's player, which
supposedly
will be available this November.

You get free what you already have and own.

How nice is that! Useless if you ask.

It's breaking Apple's lock on your music library. Nobody's
surprised
you can't see the value of that.

But it's not breaking mindshare. Just as the PC/Windows has the
mindshare in terms of computers, iPod/ITMS has the mindshare with music
and to a lesser extent, video.

It's bringing freedom to the market. Apple no longer has a lock on
the music collection you acquired through their music store.

they don't have one anyway.

Yes they do. The Apple Music Store only works with iPod.

But M$ plan also makes it look as if Apple will stand still, but they
won't.

MS plans to bring hardware choice to music customers the same way they
did to computer buyers.

Of course you'd like nothing better than for iPods/ITMS to fall. It's
your style.

It would be your "style" as well, if you equally applied your
objections to monopoly and lock-in to proprietary formats to Apple the
way you apply them to Microsoft.

No, not at all. First, I don't want Apple to be in M$ position in the
marketplace. I want users to have choice. Does that mean I don't want
Apple to do better? Nope.

Apple is the "MS" of portable music players.

Folks have choice now. They can put tunes on any player. The problem is
some of the non-iPod devices don't work well, and/or provide a good
experience for the consumer, especially compared to the iPod + iTunes +
ITMS which is seamless. That's "seamless" experience is what has to be
beaten if anyone is to get some share. Then, there's mindshare.

That's just double talk. When Apple is criticized for forcing music
buyers to have iPods, you guys claim any player can be used. When
alternative players are suggested as competition to iPod, suddenly the
integration with the Apple Music Store becomes an overwhelming factor
in iPod's favor. You're talking out of both sides of your mouth
again.

Baloney. There are lots of choices out there for mp3 players. Apple has
forced no one to buy an iPod. Did Apple "force" consumers to buy iPods
by making the coolest looking player? Did they force folks to buy iPods
because they were the most expensive? How did Apple "force" folks to buy
their product and service?

You can go buy other mp3 players, I certainly could since I don't buy
from ITMS. I use my iPod for my own CD's and other stuff so I could have
bought nearly anything. I chose the iPod because it works SEAMLESSLY
with iTMS. I don't need more problems to fix since I have other stuff to
do. That's the part that escapes you, ease of use.

I know you're going to trumpet what you call Apple's "proprietary"
system, but the industry isn't as biased as you and neither are the
consumers in the country. They're the ones that count, not you eddie.


There is nothing inherently bad of proprietary things so long as they
work right. There are lots of examples of stuff in this country that
have proprietary parts, or services. For you to pick on Apple comes from
your bias.

You have that back asswards, as usual Jim. Proprietary lock in and a
monopoly are good things to you as long as they're owned by Apple
Computer, Inc. Otherwise they're evil and horrible.

For you to be spatting out the word "bias" at anyone else is so ironic
it's hilarious.

in your usual small-minded thinking you go right past what a monopoly
like M$ has done?MANIPULATE that marketplace with their monopoly power.

Apple has made the best total experience and not forced anyone to
purchase their product. The consumer has made the iPod + iTunes + ITMS
what it is simply because it's the best experience. Something you just
can't get past and our of your caw because it's Apple.

You'd put down and hope or failure, any product, service, etc., by Apple
because it's not PC related.

--
Regards,
JimP
"The measure of a man is what he will do while
expecting that he will get nothing in return!"
.

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