Re: So, windows doesn't get viruses and worms eh?
- From: GreyCloud <mist@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 23:04:12 -0600
John Slade wrote:
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John Slade wrote:
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John Slade wrote:
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In article <280520061610537076%mitch@xxxxxxxxx>,
Mitch <mitch@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <noone-DC973A.12284528052006@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Steve Carroll <noone@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
2- Delete attachments from people you don't know
This part is funny.
Since OE is the recommended mail program,
and most viruses travel through OE address book entries -- making most
viruses arrive from friends!
In addition,
the preview pane is on by default,
loading HTML content is on by default,
loading attachments inline is on by default,
most users turn on access to attachments or reduce security settings.
Windows users would have benefitted a great deal years ago by giving up
OE, yet many won't even do it today, no matter what they are told!
Even funnier to me is the fact that the video contains no mention of
certain things the Wintaliban of csma are claiming makes Windows as safe
as OSX. While some suggestions might seem to make sense to make it more
secure than it is currently, I have yet to see anyone provide any kind
of proof that any of them work to the extent that they make Windows as
safe as OSX.
Use online e-mail systems. It will make your OS X as secure as my Windows system is. Use a firewall or router with firewall capabilities. You will make your OS X Mac as secure as my Windows system. Don't download and install pirated software. Despite this OS X users have gone to a web site and had their computer compromised. They had a virus put on it despite all the vaunted OS X security. That hasn't happened to me while using Windows, ever.
Sure. But then I can take a Mac with OS X out of the box as is and hook it straight to the internet without any problems.
I can take my coputer and do the same thing. Buy a computer from Dell and it's the same deal. But you can't take your Mac out of the box and visit that infected web site without it being compromised.
Another myth you can't prove. I've had a Mac on broadband for over a 1/2 year naked and nothing ever happened to it.
Maybe you don't know that a hacker got in and used your computer for something sinister. However if you go to the infected web site with a "naked" Mac, you will be infected.
I know there has been no attacks. My router logs would show it.
Nice to have a big hard drive, but purging the file once a day sure helps.
It is either patched or not. Most likely it won't be patched against that viurs. The Dell system comes with two years of virus protection software installed out of the box. Not that I'm an advocate of Dell but I'm just using it as an example of a average PC bought by someone.
Yet the news media is rife with successful attacks against Windows.
Because despite everything some computers are unprotected and we all know that Windows is a target. Virtually nobody wants to attack OS X as it is obscure these days.
It isn't that so much, is that it would be very difficult for them to attack Unix. It is so much easier for them to nail Windows instead.
I don't hear any attacks on OpenVMS either, but if you use PHP on any platform, the worst you'll see is a defaced webpage.
Solaris doesn't seem to be hit either, and they are also being used.
Same for Tru-64 UNIX, HP-UX, and IRIX.
In Comp.os.vms, the IT pros says it takes about 15 to 20 minutes for XP to get compromised on the net if you hook it up naked to broadband.
But the vast majority of PCs come with protection already installed.
Only for so long... and even then successful attacks against Windows has happened.
And attacks have been sucessful against Macs. Six in one hand...
Very little had happened. There were no attacks, but a phishing scam.
A big difference.
But no viruses/worms.
So that just doesn't fly for the vast majority of users. Actually a PC with protection installed is more secure than a Mac with no protection and we know there are Mac OS X viruses out there.
There are no viruses for OS X.
There is a virus for OS X. We've already been through this. Some folk try to say it isn't a virus because it has worm and virus properties but the fact is it's a virus and it was in the wild and did damage.
No, you are sadly mistaken. There is no virus for OS X... just a phishing scam.
Now tell us how the virus worked?
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Where are we going?
And why am I in this handbasket?
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