Re: apples screen patent

In article <DGq%f.116094$TA3.48289@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
one of the usual morons <antwun@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

sav wrote:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6379146923853181774

has that been posted here already? I know there have been threads about
it but I missed this if it was.

Very cool. I suppose they 'stole' it though! You can always say that.
Totally unprecented ideas are extremely rare.

Andy

If you do a little research you'd see this was done by some researchers, not
Apple. Jobs saw the demo, had his R & D cronies write up a patent, and
basically stole these researchers' ideas before they had a chance to patent
it. What a tool.

I'd just like to point out that this 'Jobs saw the demo...' line was
invented by the moron mentioned above. Neither he (it) nor we know
anything about the development of this technology.

Anyone who watches Apple news will know that the patents for this
technology were sent to the US Patent Office in 2005 at the earliest,
and approved early in 2006.

Anyone who can read can see that the video at Google is dated 2006.

Therefore, if you know what logic is, this video was made well after the
patents had been proposed.

And, an educated guess would be that Apple would not approve of any
company outside of Apple to create such a video until such time as the
patents were approved.

There is absolutely no reason to connect this video with anyone who
actually invented and patented the technology. It is possible that Apple
used a 3rd party company to help develop the technology under contract.
It is possible that this demo was done by that company. It is also
possible that this demo was done by some other company who has already
licensed the technology and is developing it further. Or it may be that
Apple simply asked this company to take the technology and brainstorm it.

In any case: The technology is bloody brilliant. Artists and
mathematicians alike are going to love it.

What I don't like:

1) Fingerprints on my screen! I have a ready bottle of approved cleaner
available as well as soft cotton cloths to clean up my screen regularly.
Touching the thing all day is going to make a mess.

2) No way am I going to enjoy typing on a flat screen. I am much better
off using a writing tool. I am a wiz at using the Graffiti handwriting
recognition system. I scribble stuff I am working on with my Palm all
day long.

What I expect will happen: With time and plummeting costs, the LCD
screen will become something like a blackboard. Instead of chalk we will
use our fingers, in color, pressure sensitive, etc. We will clear the
board with a simple finger gesture. We will clean our fingerprints off
with what will still look like a chalkboard eraser.

What I find disappointing:

This demonstration used 3D images, but had zero 3D object manipulation.
I am sure this will happen with time. I just find it frustrating,
personally, that the GUI remains almost 100% 2D manipulation in our age
of having 3D cards in every computer. Undoubtedly there are both
Luddites who don't want to change, as well as researchers who have
determined that the average Joe finds playing with 3D objects on a 2D
screen to be confusing or over his head. So, we are left with niffy kewl
3D effects only, but so far no real 3D GUI.

This is one reason I say we are still in the Computer Stone Age. I think
technology like this way kewl touch screen are example of someone
testing out making tools out of 'metal' but we haven't figured out how
to refine them and standardize them. Then there is that always constant
need for more speed with anything 3D.

Gee, how come Bill Gates never talks about such non-obvious stuff?

:-D

--
Fortune Magazine, 11-29-05: What's your computer setup today?
Frederick Brooks: I happily use a Macintosh. It's not been equalled for ease
of use, and I want my computer to be a tool, not a challenge.
<http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2005/12/12/8363107/>
[Frederick Brooks is the author of 'The Mythical Man Month'. He spearheaded
the movement to modernize computer software engineering in 1975]
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