Re: IRC
- From: "Tim Crowley" <timmyturmoil@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 29 Mar 2006 09:43:20 -0800
Snit wrote:
"Tim Crowley" <timmyturmoil@xxxxxxxxx> stated in post
1143644116.029951.208860@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on 3/29/06 7:55 AM:
Snit wrote:
"Tim Crowley" <timmyturmoil@xxxxxxxxx> stated in post
1143610913.573223.112660@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on 3/28/06 10:41 PM:
Snit wrote:
I don't use IRC much anymore. Back in the day (say pre AOL) I was
fairly active and ran a few servers and had lot's of fun with the IRC
community. These days I'm a little too busy and work a bit too hard.
But I went on today and just for grins and giggles I went to several
groups and asked "how can I change my screen name". I was kicked and
banned from 10 channels in less than 1 hour. But not all of them called
me an AOLer before they kicked me off - so it must be right. The
proper term for alias identities on Usenet, IRC and pretty much the
rest of the Internet is " Screen Name" Yup. Tha's the ticket. Have a
nice night. BTW one of the nicest things about the Mac is that it has
a tru *nix base so I can compile and run real IRC programs - not the
windows based programs (note the small w) that are so popular these
days. hint: popular does NOT equal good.
I would love to see some transcripts of those conversations. I tried it
and
got this:
Snit: how can I change my screen name?
Reply: type /nick a new one
Snit: how can I change my screen name?
Reply: type /nick and the nick you want
Snit: how can I change my screen name?
Reply: type /nick yournewnick or bug the folks in #nuthouse :)
Etc. Did this in about a dozen rooms and was not kicked from one. Spent a
few minutes in one room explaining why I was asking and was told you were
an
"idiot" to say the term "screen name" is that shunned.
Thank you, Snit. You have been very useful.
on IRC the term is NICK. You post makes this very clear. Thanks
again and have a good night.
I do not believe anyone has stated that "nick" is an incorrect term.
It is the correct term. Screen Name is not a term used on IRC, which
you proved - each time you used it you were given the correct term.
You have misunderstood the above.
No, actually I understand it perfectly.
Whether you do this from ignorance or
malice I do not care to guess. Either way: what you claim the above
"proved" it clearly did not.
Actually, it did. Not that your evidence was needed.
?The term "screen name" was not shunned in any
way. What you are referring to, and not seeming to understand, is that
"/nick" is the name of a command - not a stating of the only term used for a
concept.
nick is both the name of the command and the term used in the IRC
community:
"The term 'screen name' was originally coined by the America Online
service, and, strictly speaking, does not apply in cases other than
usernames for the AOL and AOL-owned CompuServe services. Outside the
AOL milieu, it is much more common to use the synonyms 'handle,'
'username,' 'user id', or 'nickname' (shortened to 'nick' in the IRC
environment). The use of 'screen name' is often used as a reverse
shibboleth by old timers to identify those who are newer to the online
world."
The
conversation was about it using the term "screen name" made one worthy of
being called an AOLer and ridiculed and then,
The point is that his behavior is close to the reputation that AOLers
have. He says he's not has not. I have no reason not to believe him .
Sadly you have given reason to not be believed yourself - such as when you
claimed to be kicked from any channel where you asked the question I
received such kind responses to.
I was. It's a fact. Do you think I care if you don't believe me?
Why would it matter - the response you got went more to my my point
than the responce you got.
\> later, if "screen name" was
also an acceptable term. Clearly it is - as based on the multiple links you
have been shown and, now, the partial transcripts, above.
Your claim that you were kicked from multiple rooms for asking the same
question I did seems dubious. Just to be clear: I entered rooms using the
nick (or screen name) of "snit" and then immediately asked the above
question and did not comment at all until someone responded. I was kicked
from not a single room and, in the majority, I was helped. Not one person
even told me the term "screen name" was unacceptable.
How do you account for your being treated so poorly and me being treated so
kindly?
IRC is a big place. Have a nice day.
That still does not account for the differences. Your claim is dubious at
best.
My claim is fact.
"The term 'screen name' was originally coined by the America Online
service, and, strictly speaking, does not apply in cases other than
usernames for the AOL and AOL-owned CompuServe services. Outside the
AOL milieu, it is much more common to use the synonyms 'handle,'
'username,' 'user id', or 'nickname' (shortened to 'nick' in the IRC
environment). The use of 'screen name' is often used as a reverse
shibboleth by old timers to identify those who are newer to the online
world."
.
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