Re: The Rapture Is Here: Paul Thurrott Likes Macs

In article <1h8lr4v.n0jj2218ysay8N%pa_nihill@xxxxxxxxx>,
pa_nihill@xxxxxxxxx (Patrick Nihill) wrote:

> ZnU <znu@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > In article <1h8jwzu.yhvopo1ovks6kN%pa_nihill@xxxxxxxxx>,
> > pa_nihill@xxxxxxxxx (Patrick Nihill) wrote:
> >
> > > ZnU <znu@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article <1h8dswr.1jhu4l1c3o0f6N%pa_nihill@xxxxxxxxx>,
> > > > pa_nihill@xxxxxxxxx (Patrick Nihill) wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > George Graves <gmgraves@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > > > > > > I've never had ANY version of Safari crash - ever! What are you
> > > > > > > > doing
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > make yours crash?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Launching it, going to a website. Stuff like that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How come YOUR copy of Safari crashes and nobody else's does? I'm
> > > > > > verrrrry suspicious.
> > > > >
> > > > > My copy of Safari also crashes quite regularly.
> > > >
> > > > You guys must all have some screwy plug-ins installed or something.
> > > > I've
> > > > seen Safari crash, but it's not by any means a regular event -- and I
> > > > do
> > > > lots of pretty heavy web browsing. In terms of render quality and
> > > > performance, Safari is almost certainly the best browser on the
> > > > platform, so it might be worth looking into your stability issues. (You
> > > > might want to start by yanking things out of /Library/Internet
> > > > Plug-Ins).
> > >
> > > The only plug-ins I have installed are the ones for Flash, Java,
> > > Quicktime, Shockwave, RealPlayer, and Windows Media Player. I'd rather
> > > not have to do without any of them, if one of them is to blame.
> >
> > Hmm. I have all of those except WMP, which I don't miss because the Mac
> > version is nearly unusable anyway. Maybe you should try killing that?
>
> I might give that a go.
>
> > > Although Safari's rendering is very good, I don't agree with you about
> > > the performance. Perhaps this is also related to the stability issues
> > > I've seen, but Safari has a habit of locking up and becoming
> > > unresponsive quite easily, especially if more than one page is rendering
> > > at a time.
> >
> > I've seen that, but only with certain web pages, and it's very far from
> > common. In general, Safari renders much faster than Firefox.
>
> Faster than Firefox on the Mac, yes, but I find Firefox on Windows to be
> the quickest overall.

That's not my experience. Or take a look at Foo's recent post, where
Safari on a Mac beat out Firefox on a faster Wintel machine.

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