Re: Apple store rip-off

Steve Mackay <steve_mackay@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Lars Träger wrote:
> > Steve Mackay <steve_mackay@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> Lars Träger wrote:
> >>> Steve Mackay <steve_mackay@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> John wrote:
> >>>>> tom_elam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >>>>>> The Apple store will install 16 GB of DDR2 ram in a PowerMac for
> >>>>>> $11,900. The street price for the exact same chips is about $5,000,
> >>>>>> half the Apple price.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And George G. thought that $3 gasoline was a Rip-off!\
> >>>>>
> >>>>> All Computer makers including Dell overcharge for installing RAM. Not a
> >>>>> very good troll Tom.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> To add 4 gig(up from 512meg) on a Dell 9150 is $490
> >>>> To add 4 gig(8x512 or 4 x 1 gig up from base 512 meg) is $700 for a
> >>>> Powermac.
> >>>> So Apple over charges *ONLY* 43% more than Dell :)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> To add 2 gig from Dell is $220
> >>>> To add 2 gig from Apple is $300
> >>>> It's only 36% more of a ripoff for 2 gig :)
> >>> Funny you don't mention the price to upgrade to 16 GB - not even 8 GB.
> >>>
> >>> Being able to upgrade to 16 GB: priceless.
> >> Dell PowerEdge 6800
> >> 16 gig DDR2 upgrade $2774
> >> 32 gig DDR2 Upgrade $7694
> >>
> >> 16 gig DDr2 upgrade $9500
> >>
> >> Funny you don't mention the upgrade to 32 gig.
> >>
> >> You can upgrade the Dell to 32 gig for LESS than upgrading the Apple to
> >> 16 gig.
> >
> > Sure, but first you have to buy the computer that costs >3 times as
> > much.
>
> And here I thought the PowerMacs start at $1999. Since the PowerEdge
> 6800 starts at $4574 with dual xeons.
>
> Last time i checked, 3 x $1999 is $5997 :)

Ohh, sorry. That's the price the crappy Dell page tells me. Starting
price $16001. Gee, I guess I have to dive for bargains again.

> > Then you get SLOWER, non-ECC RAM.
>
> The $9500 is for NON ECC DDR2. It's $11,900. for ECC.

ECC? The Dell site mentions nothing of the kind. Only that it's slower.

> > Buying a quad WITH 16GB at Apple prices is actually $3000 cheaper than
> > buying a PowerEdge 6800 with 16 GB.
>
> No, it's not. You can buy a dual core+dual proccessor PowerEdge 6800
> with 16 GIG of ram for $10,025
>
> The Quad PowerMac is $12,799 with 16 gig.
>
> So, want to try this again?

Sure.

PowerEdge 6800





Catalog Number / Description

Product Code

SKU

Id




PowerEdge 6800:
Dual-Core Intel® Xeon™ Processor 7020, 2.66Ghz, 2x1MB, 667Mhz FSB

680D26

[222-1045]

1



Additional Processors:
Dual-Core Intel® Xeon™ Processor 7020, 2.66Ghz, 2x1MB, Quad Proc

4PD26

[311-5546]

2



Memory:
8GB DDR2 400MHZ(4X2GB), Dual Ranked DIMMs

8G4D4D

[311-5324]

3



Operating System:
No Operating System

NOOSM

[420-4077]

11



Chassis Configuration:
Tower Chassis Orientation

TOWER

[310-6395]

28



Bezel:
Active ID Bezel Option for Tower Configuration

TBEZEL

[313-3277]

17



System Deployment:
Power Supply Deployment for 120-127 Volt AC Countries

DPLY120

[310-6637]

93



Power Supply:
Dual Power Supplies, for 120-127 Volt AC Countries, US Deployment

2PS120

[310-6382]

36



Power Supply Redundancy Check:
Redundant Power Not Required

NREDCK

[310-6635]

73



CD/DVD Drive:
24X IDE CD-ROM

24XCD

[313-2700]

16



Floppy Drive:
No Floppy Drive

NFD

[341-0838]

10



Keyboard:
No Keyboard Option

N

[310-3281]

4



Mouse:
No Mouse Option

N

[310-0024]

12



Monitor:
No Monitor Option

N

[320-0058]

5



Documentation:
Electronic Documentation and OpenManage CD Kit

EDOCS

[310-6391]

21



Remote Management:
Dell Remote Access Card, 4th Generation, for PowerEdge

DRAC4

[313-3278]

14



Open Manage Subscription:
Open Manage Subscription Service (8 Editions)

OMSUB8

[902-9887]

34



Hardware Support Services:
3Yr SILVER Support, 4Hr Onsite, S/W Support

SILVERU

[950-0227][902-8700][902-7142][960-1352][983-2207][983-2217]

29



Installation Support Services:
No Installation Assessment

NOINSTL

[900-9997]

32



HD Configuration (Opt 1):
AR0/N Add-in card RAID 0, No Drives in Media Bay

AR0N

[341-1961]

27



Hard Drive Backplane:
1x10 Hot Plug SCSI Hard Drive Backplane

1X10BKP

[311-4934]

18



Primary Controller:
PERC4/DC, 1 Internal and 1 External Channel

P4D128I

[341-1284]

9



Primary Hard Drive:
73GB 10K RPM Ultra 320 SCSI Hard Drive

73G103

[341-1898]

8



Second Hard Drive:
73GB 10K RPM Ultra 320 SCSI Hard Drive

73G103

[341-1898]

23



Third Hard Drive:
73GB 10K RPM Ultra 320 SCSI Hard Drive

73G103

[341-1898]

54



Tape Backup:
PV110T, LTO-2 Tape Backup, 200/400GB, Full Height, w/Controller,
Internal

LTO2C

[341-1982]

15



Network Adapter:
Dual Onboard NICs

OBNICS

[430-8991]

13


$20,839


Gee, it's fun buying overpriced Dells.
--
Lars T.
.

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