Re: iMac G5 Ram

Michelle Ronn <micron@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> > no, you are looking too deep trying to find a problem where there is
> > none. the above link is all you need to know to buy ram for a powermac
> > g5, they will work in any configuration, those are the "certified
> > specs".
>
> You keep dodging the questions of who says they are certified, and what
> does certified mean. You makde up the term. There is not a reference to
> "certified specs" on any of the sites you have given me.

the company selling the ram "certifies" it matches the specs, so can't
get much clearer than that!

> No where does Apple publically specify if RAM modules should be
> buffered or unbuffered. There is a cost difference between the two.
> There is a heat difference between the two. There is a performance
> difference between the two. Several of the sites that you have posted
> list both of them as parts for the Power Mac G5. Obviously, these
> manufacturers are not providing RAM to manufacturers specfications, or
> there would not be these variances in modules.

yes, but none of that matters, again, you are looking at aspects that
don't factor into a purchase decision.

> >> Simply put. If I purchase 2 x 1 GB sticks from Apple for a given
> >> system, they will work together.
> >
> > sure, and you will WASTE, $130+ in the process. you just aren't a very
> > experienced shopper that's all. you sound like the type of fool that
> > buys premium gas when your car only can handle regular unleaded. you
> > are a victim of marketing, not understanding actual "specs".
>
> Oh good, you want to talk about another subject that you know nothing
> about, and that I have researched extensively. To make it quick and
> painless, premium gas USED to get you more detergent. Then the EPA made
> detergent and additive regulations. Detergent level's uniformly
> dropped. The auto manufacturers stepped in and pressured the gas
> manufacturers into the "Top Tier Gasoline" program (due to increased
> warranty related fuel injector issues). Any gas supplier that adheres
> to these guidelines must 1) put more additive in their fuel than the
> EPA requires, and 2) keep it uniform across the fuel octane grades.
>
> All higher grade gas in the US buys you is more octane. Only one of my
> cars actually requires it, so that is the only one that gets it. My
> other two and my motorcyle run great on 87, which is the lowest I can
> get here.

yes, you proved my point.

> Back to memory. You are wrong again. There is a difference between
> modules. Two of the links that you provided me, when I followed YOUR
> instructions, both documented these differences. They both stated that
> there was another tier of RAM that would match manufacturer
> specifications.
>
> Your own evidence convicted you. Don't look for a second career in law.

my links fully meet the specs of Apple, that's all i'm concerned about,
if you want to be tricked by "marketing" and buy high octane ram for no
reason, that's your fault, not mine.

> >> If I go out and purchase 2 x 1GB sticks individually that meet the
> >> "PC3200" spec... there is no guarantee whatsoever that they will work
> >> together. There are still several variables that are importantant that
> >> these "specs" do not address.
> >>
> >> That makes me far from "golden"
> >
> > yes, but 99% of the time they will work just fine. if you buy large
> > qty's of ram like I do, you learn to take the tiny risk.
>
> I think you pulled that number out of the air.

1 in 99 dimms? that's my experience deal with it.

> > yes, and Apple only has ONE spec for each machine type, so I buy to
> > spec, then find the lowest price for that certified spec, that's why
> > i'm golden, while you can only afford bronze.
>
> You clearly do not know what a spec is, as you have demonstrated. Apple
> could have multiple specifications for different parts. You clearly do
> not know.

sure i could go dig around on apple developer pages for the full listing
of electrical specs for any give ram module, but I don't really care as
long as the memory I buy is fully certified to work in said machine.

> Again, what qualifies a memory module as "certified". Please provide a
> link to this. In the mean time, I will assume that you just made it up.

"certifed", simply means it "meets" or "exceeds" the manufactures
requirements. if you can't understand this simple word, no wonder you
have wasted money on ram in years past!

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