Re: Vista beta vs. OSX

George Graves wrote:
> In article <1133406993.044567.37290@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> "ed" <news@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > George Graves wrote:
> > > In article <BFB34A6D.4B44%orthocross@xxxxxxx>,
> > > Donald <orthocross@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > > Anyway, I was finally able to download that page. And I simply disagree
> > > > with his definition, as do many, many others. So, "more authoritative"
> > > > in
> > > > this case means absolutely nothing. I consider only ONE written work to
> > > > be
> > > > "more authoritative" than another, or "PERFECT", as you claim your
> > > > definition is: The Holy Bible of Historical Christianity.
> > >
> > > Yeah, the Bible is "Perfect" all right.
> > >
> > > "And Cain knew his wife". Where the *** did SHE come from? I mean, if
> > > you accept the nonsense that the first man and the first woman were Adam
> > > and Eve, and Eve had two sons, Cain and Able, unless Cain was screwing a
> > > sheep (the cute one, though, with the pretty pink ribbon) there were no
> > > women in the world.
> >
> > um, sure there were- adam and eve had daughters as well.
>
> Would you like to show me the chapter and verse where the Old Testament
> says that Adam and Eve had more than the two sons?

i don't have a bible in front of me right now, but Seth is explicitly
mentioned by name as a son of adam and eve, and there are other more
generic mentions of additional siblings elsewhere.

> I'd love to see it.

so you should go read a bible. =D

> In Genesis 4, verses 1 and 2 it says: And Adam knew Eve, his wife, and
> she conceived and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the
> Lord. And she again bare his brother Able. And Able was a keeper of
> sheep but Cain was a tiller of the Land.
>
> That's it. That's the full extent of the Bible's treatment of the
> subject of Adam and Eve's offspring.

no, no it isn't. you clearly have never read the bible george, and are
simply trumpeting arguments you've heard others make. just did a quick
lookup of the bible on the gutenburg site, and 2 lousy verses down from
what you're quoting":
5:4. And the days of Adam, after he begot Seth, were eight hundred
years: and he begot sons and daughters.

> > and more than
> > two sons. you'd make a much more effective bible basher if you'd
> > actually read the thing george...
>
> I have read it. Probably more than you have.

um, that doesn't seem to be the case given your above arguments, eh?

> I know that some worthy in the 4th century wrote a book called the
> "Story of Adam of Eve" and some early Bibles included it, and supposedly
> it fleshes out the family with daughters and more sons (9 in all I
> believe) but it has no provenance in Hebrew scripture.
>
> > <snip>
>
> having no answers for the Noah's Ark story's discrepancies, He simply
> skips them...

why do i need 'answers' for them? as i've stated george, i'm not even
a christian, but if you're going to bash something, at least be
informed and don't just make stuff up!

> > > Jumping ahead to the New Testament, we have the Gospels of Matthew and
> > > Luke disagreeing on many points of the life of the Christ Figure. They
> > > totally disagree about the series of events leading up to the
> > > crucifixion.
> >
> > why's that a big deal? you take 10 eye witnesses to a bank robbery
> > that happened an hour ago and you'll get 10 different stories. i don't
> > believe the bible is rooted in fact, but the gospels are basically
> > supposed to be different individuals perspectives on events. it'd be
> > dumb to expect them not to differ.
>
> Yet you say that it is "Perfect."

and where, oh where, do i say *that*?

> Odd hypocrisy that allows for such
> glaring errors in a "perfect" text.

that would be a "contradiction", and not a "hypocrisy".

> > > Shall I go on?
> > >
> > > And this is what you Christians call a "Perfect" written work? The thing
> > > is full of more holes than a piece of swiss cheese. Just like your
> > > idiotic religion.
> >
> > perfect means different things to different people
>
> No. "Perfect" means "without flaw." It's that simple.

no, it's not. ;D

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