Re: Is System Lockdown the Secret Weapon?

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 00:47:20 GMT, Mayor of R'lyeh
<mayor.of.rlyeh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:17:11 -0700, Josh McKee wrote:
>
>> On 28 Nov 2005 13:02:37 -0800, "Mayor Of R'lyeh"
>> <mayor.of.rlyeh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Josh McKee wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 11:51:20 -0700, Snit <SNIT@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >"Josh McKee" <jtmckee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> stated in post
>>>> >k4kmo1hsdefs8dn7828vpu7kutca8taru0@xxxxxxx on 11/28/05 11:49 AM:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Supports what I've been saying for quite some time:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> We found a vast degree of difference among the three user memberships.
>>>> >> On our Windows 2000 Professional client with User permissions only,
>>>> >> none of the malware installed completely and two threats actually
>>>> >> warned that the user had insufficient privileges.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> A third loaded a malicious process into memory, but the threat did not
>>>> >> reappear after reboot. The Sunbelt scan performed after the reboot
>>>> >> could find only a single threat, which consisted of one file in the
>>>> >> browser cache.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1891447,00.asp
>>>> >
>>>> >A big part of the problem with Windows is so much software does not work
>>>> >when you do not have permissions higher than one would expect for the
>>>> >software in question. It puts MS in a tough spot - but one of their own
>>>> >making.
>>>>
>>>> Why is it Microsoft's making?
>>>
>>>The main reason most I know run Windows with an administrative account
>>>is because you need to be in one to burn CDs and DVDs.
>>
>> Not on this system you don't. Nero Express 6 that came with my DVD
>> recorder. Though I did have to download and install "Nero Burning
>> Rights" in order to obtain this capability. I don't see why this
>> wasn't part of the software that came with the drive.
>
>It does come with the full retail version. Its one of the things many
>OEMs choose to leave out when they configure their Nero bundle.

Interesting as it was a free download.

>>>Even though its not done very often its still a PITA when it needs to be
>>>done andyou're running in a normal account. If Microsoft would fix that
>>>and make a normal user account the default it would greatly improve
>>>things.
>>
>> I don't see this being Microsoft's issue to solve. If it's third party
>> software that is experiencing the problem then logically the problem
>> lies with the author of that software.
>
>The problem doesn't actually lie with third party software in this case.
>Windows was deliberately designed to deny regular users access to burners
>as a security measure.

A good thing.

>Nero responded to the demands of its users by coming up with 'Burn
>Rights'. As I understand it this program forces the creation of a new
>class of user that has restricted privileges and access to the burners.

It creates a new group. You then place users that you want to have the
ability to burn CD's into this group. It works exactly like any other
security group in Windows.

>As I understand it this program is unusable by anyone not using Nero as
>their burning software.

Probably. Do you view this as a problem?

>In order to address this particular issue Microsoft needs to allow burning
>rights to be granted to regular users. Otherwise we're going to end up
>with a motley assortment of hacks to do it for them.

This doesn't appear to be a hack to me. Run the installer, add the
user to the new group, and you're done.

Josh
.

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