Re: Is System Lockdown the Secret Weapon?
- From: Mayor of R'lyeh <mayor.of.rlyeh@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 00:47:20 GMT
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:17:11 -0700, Josh McKee wrote:
> On 28 Nov 2005 13:02:37 -0800, "Mayor Of R'lyeh"
> <mayor.of.rlyeh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>
>>Josh McKee wrote:
>>> On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 11:51:20 -0700, Snit <SNIT@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >"Josh McKee" <jtmckee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> stated in post
>>> >k4kmo1hsdefs8dn7828vpu7kutca8taru0@xxxxxxx on 11/28/05 11:49 AM:
>>> >
>>> >> Supports what I've been saying for quite some time:
>>> >>
>>> >> We found a vast degree of difference among the three user memberships.
>>> >> On our Windows 2000 Professional client with User permissions only,
>>> >> none of the malware installed completely and two threats actually
>>> >> warned that the user had insufficient privileges.
>>> >>
>>> >> A third loaded a malicious process into memory, but the threat did not
>>> >> reappear after reboot. The Sunbelt scan performed after the reboot
>>> >> could find only a single threat, which consisted of one file in the
>>> >> browser cache.
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1891447,00.asp
>>> >
>>> >A big part of the problem with Windows is so much software does not work
>>> >when you do not have permissions higher than one would expect for the
>>> >software in question. It puts MS in a tough spot - but one of their own
>>> >making.
>>>
>>> Why is it Microsoft's making?
>>
>>The main reason most I know run Windows with an administrative account
>>is because you need to be in one to burn CDs and DVDs.
>
> Not on this system you don't. Nero Express 6 that came with my DVD
> recorder. Though I did have to download and install "Nero Burning
> Rights" in order to obtain this capability. I don't see why this
> wasn't part of the software that came with the drive.
It does come with the full retail version. Its one of the things many
OEMs choose to leave out when they configure their Nero bundle.
>
>>Even though its not done very often its still a PITA when it needs to be
>>done andyou're running in a normal account. If Microsoft would fix that
>>and make a normal user account the default it would greatly improve
>>things.
>
> I don't see this being Microsoft's issue to solve. If it's third party
> software that is experiencing the problem then logically the problem
> lies with the author of that software.
The problem doesn't actually lie with third party software in this case.
Windows was deliberately designed to deny regular users access to burners
as a security measure.
Nero responded to the demands of its users by coming up with 'Burn
Rights'. As I understand it this program forces the creation of a new
class of user that has restricted privileges and access to the burners.
As I understand it this program is unusable by anyone not using Nero as
their burning software.
In order to address this particular issue Microsoft needs to allow burning
rights to be granted to regular users. Otherwise we're going to end up
with a motley assortment of hacks to do it for them.
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