Re: If Macs have no spyware....

In article <0spnm1lhgsnf46calhelj1hkeqah9s21oq@xxxxxxx>,
Josh McKee <jtmckee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 14:26:22 -0700, Steve Carroll <noone@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <isigm1povia9sui23fi5vdv9br0f9nmavt@xxxxxxx>,
> > Josh McKee <jtmckee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 21:57:29 -0700, GreyCloud <cumulus@xxxxxxxx>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Josh McKee wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 16:22:00 -0700, GreyCloud <cumulus@xxxxxxxx>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Josh McKee wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:22:53 -0700, GreyCloud <cumulus@xxxxxxxx>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >Josh McKee wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 12:45:45 -0700, GreyCloud <cumulus@xxxxxxxx>
> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >Josh McKee wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:53:45 -0600, GreyCloud
> >> >> >> >> >> <cumulus@xxxxxxxx>
> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >Josh McKee wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Did I cut out something that you thought was important and
> >> >> >> >> >> >> should have
> >> >> >> >> >> >> been addressed? Since we're in agreement that OS X is
> >> >> >> >> >> >> susceptible to
> >> >> >> >> >> >> malware I didn't see any point in addressing the rest of
> >> >> >> >> >> >> what
> >> >> >> >> >> >> you had
> >> >> >> >> >> >> written.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >Typical wintroll perceptions of other imagined problems in
> >> >> >> >> >> >other o/ses.
> >> >> >> >> >> >Only windwoes has problems of significant magnitude.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> lol. Says the loser who claims that "OS X client doesn't have
> >> >> >> >> >> Apache
> >> >> >> >> >> installed".
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >Says the moron that thinks XP is secure.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> See the difference between you and I is that my claims are
> >> >> >> >> supported
> >> >> >> >> in fact. Yours, well, they're not supported at all.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Hardly. Your facts are erroneous and unsubstantiated.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >Guffaw!!!
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> I thought you were a knowledgable foe. But it's become
> >> >> >> >> >> apparent
> >> >> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >> >> >> you're no better than the rest of the zealots.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >So sayeth the retarded Wintroll named Josh.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Ah. The personal attack. A clear admission that I have bested
> >> >> >> >> you.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Guffaw!! Only in your dreams, wintroll.
> >> >> >> >I've spotted you for what you are. A Phoney.
> >> >> >> >You do not advocate for the mac, but are a M$ apologist.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >You're a Mac Advocate??
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Yep.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Liar.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> With "arguments" like that there's no reason to continue trying to
> >> >> >> hold a rational debate with you. I've got better things to do than
> >> >> >> argue with someone who can do no better than call their opponent
> >> >> >> names. If you decide that you're willing to have a mature discussion
> >> >> >> perhaps we can pick this up in the future. Until then I'm bored with
> >> >> >> your childish posts.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >You act like the fool that you've made yourself be.
> >> >> >First you yammer about being a Mac advocate, then bad mouth
> >> >> >me for dumping XP in favor of a Mac.
> >> >>
> >> >> To be clear: I'm not "bad mouthing" you for dumping XP in favor of the
> >> >> Mac.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >Oh? Wasn't it you that said I couldn't run XP Pro and so
> >> >cut and run??
> >>
> >> I recall saying that you appear to be incapable of using Windows and
> >> using it securely. But that doesn't mean that I am against your having
> >> bought a Mac to replace it.
> >>
> >> What I disagree with is your blaming Windows for your ineptitude.
> >
> >Then you're also blaming the millions and millions and MILLIONS of users
> >who have the same problem along with him... to the tune of billions and
> >billions and BILLIONS of dollars, right? Great way to treat a customer
> >base... blame them for a myriad of security problems. By the way, have
> >you gotten that list together yet? You know the one... it'll contain
> >multiple reasons why OSX doesn't have things like malware. Or will you
> >be switching back to your original theme that no one is interested in an
> >OS with so small a marketshare?
>
> Perhaps you'd be willing to take me up on my challenge? If I recall
> correctly you live nearby making the challenge that much easier. And
> it would address GreyClouds concerns. I'll even buy you lunch. Deal?
>
> Josh

What has your challenge to do with the fact that millions and millions
of users display this same sort of "ineptitude"? Proving I can't hack in
won't mean too much and I think you know that, I don't claim to be that
computer savvy. I'll meet you for lunch if you're prepared to discuss
the multiple reasons that OSX can't get malware.

--
"I would not be a good liar, being that I have little if any practice." - Snit


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