Re: Non-existent Windows malware
- From: steve.travis@xxxxxxxxx
- Date: 13 Oct 2005 12:38:45 -0700
TravelinMan wrote:
> One of our salesmen has had a problem with ad popups on his computer, so
> I had a look at it. He says he didn't visit any 'bad' sites and I
> believe him - particularly after what I learned.
Er... shouldn't you have your IT group take a look at it?
> Furthermore, we had antivirus software (Sophos) installed and kept up to
> date at all times.
>
> First, I had to buy two different packages (Norton Internet Security and
> McAfee Internet Security) since the Norton package didn't find the
> problem. $190 down the drain.
You should listen when people talk. You could have downloaded AVG for
free and tried that out first, before you spent any monies whatsoever.
Of course that would require common sense.
> I had to spend 2 hours on the problem. During that 2 hours, installing
> and updating the software required 3 reboots (see more below).
Wow...I can't believe that Oseco pays you to be the President of the
company, and you waste your time (2 hours of it) futzing with a
computer. Really? Sounds to me like your ass needs a hell of a
demotion, to Junion IT.
> The problem appeared to be one of the newer trojan variants that can
> damage your computer just from visiting a web site. You don't have to
> click on anything on the web site.
The problem was that, the President of a company, was spending valuable
time futzing with a PC.
> Oddly, you have to install the software before you can use it. On the
> Mac, almost all software can be run from the CD. Even better, you can
That's because the software you bought was written by monkeys. All the
software that my people develop can be run directly from the CD, USB
drive, etc. No need to install anything. And by the way, I've had
plenty of software for the Mac that needs to 'install' itself. Poor
software developers exist for both platforms.
> usually insert the CD and boot to startup from the CD so that you can
> access all files without worrying about which ones might be open. Either
> zero or one reboot, depending on whether you run from your normal
> startup disk or the CD's startup disk.
>
> Of course, none of that time would have been necessary if he had been
> using a Mac. We have one more infrastructure change to make and I just
> might switch all the sales people (who need to access the Internet
> remotely) to Macs. After all the PC crap they've been putting up with,
> most of them are ready to change.
It's about time. BTW, what kind of an infrastructure change is
required to switch from PCs to Macs?
> So much for the 'there's no malware on Windows' crap you hear here.
That's never been the arguement. The arguement has been that with a
little common sense you can avoid getting any malware/virus etc.
However, when the President of a company spends 2 hours of his
extremely valuable time pretending to be IT, one can only assume that
common sense is lacking.
.
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