Re: Tech In 'Education'

In article <1127841269.107549.158810@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"Edwin" <thorne25@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

> TravelinMan wrote:
> > In article <1127837091.115066.143470@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> > "Edwin" <thorne25@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > TravelinMan wrote:
> > > > In article <1127831666.414760.220920@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> > > > "Edwin" <thorne25@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > TravelinMan wrote:
> > > > > > In article
> > > > > > <jpolaski-1EF866.16562126092005@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> > > > > > Jim Polaski <jpolaski@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > In article <eadgj114om2jda4vm3vktodhfrin5bc498@xxxxxxx>,
> > > > > > > Mayor of R'lyeh <mayor.of.rlyeh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 09:34:35 -0500, Jim Polaski
> > > > > > > > <jpolaski@xxxxxxxxxxxx> chose to bless us with the following
> > > > > > > > wisdom:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >In article <bsq6j15vpuukpp0jnp44qei078drjoa0vv@xxxxxxx>,
> > > > > > > > > Mayor of R'lyeh <mayor.of.rlyeh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 19:39:56 GMT, TravelinMan
> > > > > > > > >> <Nowhere@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > >> chose to bless us with the following wisdom:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> >In article
> > > > > > > > >> ><1127415670.758254.55400@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> > > > > > > > >> > "Belphegor" <huelse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> >> Mayor of R'lyeh wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> >> > http://www.cutusabreak.org/Pages/history.html
> > > > > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > > > > >> >> > Cuss and discuss.
> > > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > > >> >> I am all for 'cussing and discussing', but I find this
> > > > > > > > >> >> effort
> > > > > > > > >> >> a
> > > > > > > > >> >> bit
> > > > > > > > >> >> lacklustre...
> > > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > > >> >> first of all I think this case has been discussed about
> > > > > > > > >> >> a
> > > > > > > > >> >> month
> > > > > > > > >> >> ago,
> > > > > > > > >> >> along with general points about technology in education.
> > > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > > >> >> Secondly, what is your point? is the link supposed to
> > > > > > > > >> >> show
> > > > > > > > >> >> the
> > > > > > > > >> >> dangers
> > > > > > > > >> >> of technology in schools or the dangers of Macs in
> > > > > > > > >> >> particular?
> > > > > > > > >> >> Are you
> > > > > > > > >> >> concerned about this particular school or the state of
> > > > > > > > >> >> education
> > > > > > > > >> >> in
> > > > > > > > >> >> general? Are you worried about the level of incompetence
> > > > > > > > >> >> shown by
> > > > > > > > >> >> the
> > > > > > > > >> >> schools staff or the level of 'delinquency' of the
> > > > > > > > >> >> pupils? Or
> > > > > > > > >> >> all
> > > > > > > > >> >> of
> > > > > > > > >> >> the above?
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> >Lacking any legitimate gripes against Apple, Mayor has to
> > > > > > > > >> >try
> > > > > > > > >> >to
> > > > > > > > >> >dig up
> > > > > > > > >> >dirt about a few miscreants who happen to use Macs.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> After taking a severe blow to the head Joe seems to have
> > > > > > > > >> forgotten
> > > > > > > > >> that I am opposed to any computers being used in grade
> > > > > > > > >> school
> > > > > > > > >> education and pretends that its all about Apple.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Uh-oh, we're back to the writing on shovel backs with coal,
> > > > > > > > >candles or
> > > > > > > > >oil lamps and horses/buggies for transportation.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Still angry that every school desk isn't loaded down with a
> > > > > > > > phone
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > call the teascher with and a television to watch the class on,
> > > > > > > > Jim
> > > > > > > > lashes out at people with common sense.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >The mayor of nothing and nowhere proves once again why he's
> > > > > > > > >nothing
> > > > > > > > >and
> > > > > > > > >certainly nowhere.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > And Jim shows us wwhy a full 1/3 of the students in his
> > > > > > > > district
> > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > below average and trending downwards.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Wnh don't you show us all how technology in the classroom is
> > > > > > > responsible
> > > > > > > for your claim. Go ahead provide a source about my district that
> > > > > > > lays
> > > > > > > such a problem, if it even exists, at the foot of technology.
> > > > > > > While
> > > > > > > you're at it, show us any other school in a similar situation due
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > technology and provide a source. Provided that all this isn't too
> > > > > > > much
> > > > > > > for you, but then all I'm expecting is another of your non
> > > > > > > answers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jim, why are you criticizing him? He just gave your district a
> > > > > > compliment - according to the Mayor, 2/3 of your students are above
> > > > > > average.
> > > > >
> > > > > You may now explain how pointing out 1/3 of the students are below
> > > > > average says the remaining 2/3 are above average.
> > > >
> > > > OK. It's possible that 1 student is exactly average. So instead of 2/3
> > > > of 100 million students being above average, then 2/3 of 100 million
> > > > students MINUS 1 are above average.
> > >
> > > You failed to provide the requested explanation, most likely due to
> > > your poor reading comprehension. I didn't ask you to create a senario
> > > where 2/3 of the students are above average, I asked you to explain how
> > > the act of pointing out 1/3 of the students are below average says the
> > > remaining 2/3 are above average.
> >
> > The explanation, of course, is that I passed my math courses and you
> > apparently didn't.
>
> Not according to what you wrote below.
>
> > At most, one student can be exactly at the average point. The rest are
> > either above or below average.
>
> A single student couldn't define the average. For your education: an

I never said that a single student defined the average. I guess you
failed reading, too.

> average is made by totalling all the students grades, then dividing
> them by the total number of students.

Of course. And barring identical scores in every single area (an
extremely unlikely circumstance), no two students are exactly the same.
That means that - at most - only one can be exactly at the average.

>
> But that's besides the point.
>
> You have yet to explain how simply saying 1/3 of the students are below
> average also says the remaining 2/3 are above average. You
> explanation is not allowed to contain any numbers you create, just the
> fact 1/3 of the students are below average.

Ask your third grade math teacher.
.

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