Re: OT: Read this online... anyone have details

Snit wrote:
>
> "GreyCloud" <cumulus@xxxxxxxx> stated in post 4318A96A.1769346A@xxxxxxxx on
> 9/2/05 12:35 PM:
>
> > Snit wrote:
> >>
> >> from:
> >>
> >> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nellie-b/a-flood-of-cassandras_b_6609.html
> >>
> >> -----
> >> Congress, DURING CLINTON's ADMINISTRATION, approved federal money in 1995
> >> for a 10 year plan to update & strengthen the levees. Only until Bush came
> >> in did the money get diverted to tax cuts, an unnecessary war in Iraq, and
> >> funding of pet projects of his friends. So stop blaming the previous
> >> administration. Its also the Bush administration that's been turning its
> >> back on scientific fact of global warming causing more & more devastating
> >> hurricanes.
> >> ----
> >>
> >> True or not? I will do research later...
> >>
> >
> > Most likely plenty of blame to pass around. As the AP so
> > appropriately put, there is a massive leadership failure on
> > both sides.
>
> From doing other research, however, it is clear that Bush and company have
> cut funds in this area unlike any other president in recent memory.

No argument from me there.

And it looks like Ray Nagin didn't do what they were
supposed to do.
You can't yell "Get out of New O now" , when the poor don't
have anywhere to go.
Looks like a gross oversight on his part. Also, the poor
had no way or funds to leave.

>
> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1473789/posts
> -----
> Over the next 10 years, the Army Corps of Engineers, tasked with carrying
> out SELA, spent $430 million on shoring up levees and building pumping
> stations, with $50 million in local aid. But at least $250 million in
> crucial projects remained, even as hurricane activity in the Atlantic Basin
> increased dramatically and the levees surrounding New Orleans continued to
> subside.
>
> Yet after 2003, the flow of federal dollars toward SELA dropped to a
> trickle. The Corps never tried to hide the fact that the spending pressures
> of the war in Iraq, as well as homeland security -- coming at the same time
> as federal tax cuts -- was the reason for the strain. At least nine articles
> in the Times-Picayune from 2004 and 2005 specifically cite the cost of Iraq
> as a reason for the lack of hurricane- and flood-control dollars.
> -----
>
> Walter Maestri, emergency management chief for Jefferson Parish, Louisiana;
> New Orleans Times-Picayune, June 8, 2004.
> -----
> It appears that the money has been moved in the president¹s budget to handle
> homeland security and the war in Iraq, and I suppose that¹s the price we
> pay. Nobody locally is happy that the levees can¹t be finished, and we are
> doing everything we can to make the case that this is a security issue for
> us.
> -----
>
> http://snipurl.com/he8f
> -----
> "I've been here over 30 years and I've never seen this level of reduction,
> said Al Naomi, project manager for the New Orleans district. I think part of
> the problem is it's not so much the reduction, it's the drastic reduction in
> one fiscal year. It's the immediacy of the reduction that I think is the
> hardest thing to adapt to. There is an economic ripple effect, too. The cuts
> mean major hurricane and flood protection projects will not be awarded to
> local engineering firms. Also, a study to determine ways to protect the
> region from a Category 5 hurricane has been shelved for now."
> -----

Our community has already had a fight with FEMA personnel
over their privately built concrete dam that create the
lake. They, FEMA, mandated that the dam be 5000 year flood
compliant... a really unattainable goal. So the community
sued them and the state and won back some and had to give
way on other criteria.
How did it all start?? Well, the pogie club said they had a
right to fish in the private lake. The community told them
that they didn't have that right... so one thing led to
another.
But unfunded mandates are ridiculous and beaurocratic.

>
> > As for global warming, there are other scientists that say
> > the collected data has been found to be faulty.
>
> The vast, vast number of researchers in this area believe the world is
> warming - though there is some dissent. We do know, however, that the
> weather patterns do correlate to some extent with days of the week - so we
> know we are altering weather at least on the short term. Until or unless
> there is good reason think we are *not* in the long term we should do what
> we reasonably can to minimize our impact.
>

The vast number of scientists are under peer pressure to
hold together or get black balled.
By standing up to this and challenging the authority of who
ever heads the group is healthy.
The scientists that have challenged it with their own
evidence and research shows quite the contrary.

I know that most people are looking for a scapegoat, but
unreasoned fear isn't the way to approach the problem. The
real question is, what if the efforts are in vain and
pointless??
.

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