Re: The kids are getting dumber....

In article <nowhere-A91262.07561120082005@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Travelinman <nowhere@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> In article <1124539782.752995.106970@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> ineedyourluvin1@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > Those dirtly little schools! They teach your youngsters it's ok to
> > have homosexual lifestyles. Do what feels good and take all
>
> Not my kids's schools.
>
> But what does that have to do with quality of education?
>
> > you can get. Especially handouts. I too was subject to that.
> > This current geration in elementary, middle, and high schools are
> > being subject to indoctrination so insideous it would make
> > 1984 look like Mr. Rogers Neighborhood. You need
> > to understand what goes on in schools nowadays ! There is
> > a new culture with the youth out there and it's pretty
> > consistant wherever you live.
> > The culture of tight jeans and shorts .
>
> Same complaint as your parents generation had about your generation.
>
> Not that it affects the quality of education.
>
> > The culture of flaunting your body.
>
>
> Same complaint as your parents generation had about your generation.
>
> Not that it affects the quality of education.
>
>
> > The culture of Britney Spears.
>
>
> Same complaint as your parents generation had about your generation
> (substitute 'Elvis Presly' or 'The Beatles' or 'Boy George' or 'Devo' or
> any number of other groups.
>
> Not that it affects the quality of education.
>
>
> > The culture of lies.
>
> I can't see any school that's created a 'culture of lies'. You're just
> being irrational here.
>
> > The culture of tattling.
>
> Again, I don't see any schools that are making this a 'culture'. OTOH, a
> more open environment where bullying and abuse isn't tolerated has some
> significant advantages.
>
> >
> > That tells me the source of
> > indoctrination is nationwide and the same all over.
> > The media reinforces this into their brains. Give
> > them all a laptop and they will only want more!
> > More!More!More! Me!Me!Me!!!!
>
> Actually, it tells me that you're unwilling to discuss it rationally.
>
> >
> > Back to learning agian, have you ever heard of math EXCERSISES ?
>
> Sure. My kids did them almost every day.
>
> > Why would someone suppose they be called excersises ?
> > Could it be because it takes alot of effort from the student
> > doing them ? Let's throw a laptop into the equation.
> > Now the kid has a laptop doing the majority of work
> > for them. Also just think of all the advertisements your
> > kids will see *in time* .
>
> So it's impossible to do work that requires thinking if there's a laptop
> involved? I guess that explains your posts. The laptop removed your
> ability to think.
>
> Gotcha.

Joe, I can't tell if this guy's trying to be ironic or if he really
means whet he posts, but ignoring the fact that public schools in the US
DO teach leftism, both because its part of the US academic culture and
because it's mandated from the highest levels of school administration,
they certainly do a poor jobs of giving the kids the tools they require
for a lifetime of learning. The system turn out kids that cannot read
(except at a very elemental level), cannot do even simple math (I see
this all the time. Teenagers with summer jobs waiting on customers who
absolutely cannot even BEGIN to make change.) and who don't know a thing
about how their government works, what electricity is, etc. They cannot
write a coherent sentence, can't spell, and in short are functional
illiterates. This is anecdotal, and as such is just an example, but a
friend of mine's daughter just graduated from high-school and is on her
way to the University of Colorado at Boulder. The girl went to one of
the best schools in the San Francisco Bay Area, Los Gatos High School,
had a 3.8 average or some such, yet she meets all the criteria of a full
functional illiterate. She can't read, she certainly cannot write.
Doesn't know a noun from a pronoun from an adjective, and cannot do even
simple sums without a calculator. Yet she is not stupid. When I ask my
friend (who agrees that she learned nothing in school) what was she
being taught all those years, he says (his voice dripping with scorn)
that she was taught "socially significant" things. She knows all about
the black struggle for equality, but doesn't know what the Civil War was
all about. She's heard of Harriet Tubman but not Thomas Edison, She's
never heard of Leonardo DaVinci, but knows about gay rights. Hasn't a
clue about who wrote the Constitution, but she sure knows who Susan B.
Anthony was. It's just pathetic and I weep for the future.
.

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