Re: A lesson on why Windows dominates computing...


Alan Baker wrote:
> In article <1123599117.829285.146660@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> "Edwin" <thorne25@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Alan Baker wrote:
> > > In article <1123512769.833203.51760@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> > > "Edwin" <thorne25@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Alan Baker wrote:
> > > > > In article <1123461712.821076.88820@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> > > > > "Edwin" <thorne25@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.dylanharris.org/prose/gem/intro.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "GEM was produced by Digital Research back in the 1980s. It was a
> > > > > > successful predecessor to Microsoft Windows. It ran on various
> > > > > > hardward
> > > > > > architectures, including early PCs (such as the IBM PS/2), the Apple
> > > > > > Lisa and the ATARI ST. "
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "When Microsoft launched Windows 1.0, they launched a product
> > > > > > significantly more sophisticated than GEM. Looking back, Windows had
> > > > > > two advantages. "
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Windows does not require a mouse, despite the detail that Microsoft
> > > > > > manufacture them. In those early days a mouse was expensive, and few
> > > > > > computers had them. This made Windows significantly cheaper than GEM.
> > > > > > "
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Secondly, Windows had a number of primitive memory management
> > > > > > features. Support for Dynamic Link Libraries (DLLs) meant programs
> > > > > > did
> > > > > > not have to be fully loaded to run, and code could be shared between
> > > > > > them. Simple virtual memory meant programs could use more memory than
> > > > > > was available on the machine. Resource management meant the programs
> > > > > > resources (bitmaps, dialogues, icons, and the like) did not have to
> > > > > > fully loaded in memory at the same time. The effect was that Windows
> > > > > > allowed more and bigger programs to run in lesser computers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "I was a UK expert on GEM. Over time, I collected a number of GEM
> > > > > > bits
> > > > > > and pieces. Now that GEM's been made Open Source, I've gained
> > > > > > permission to make my collection available online. "
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The above quoted story shows how Windows beat its competition through
> > > > > > having better, more powerful features, not due to market
> > > > > > manipulation,
> > > > > > as is the common Maccie Myth.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It also shows that DLLs are a powerful and useful system asset, not
> > > > > > simply the "DLL Hell" of Maccies' imaginations.
> > > > >
> > > > > LOL
> > > > >
> > > > > The Mac has had support for dynamically linked libraries for a long
> > > > > time, too, Edwin.
> > > >
> > > > It seems you lack the wits to realize this has to do with competition
> > > > over the PC market, not the Mac.
> > >
> > > So then the Mac wasn't Windows competition?
> >
> > While we're discussing PC GUIs, Mac is not Windows competition, unless
> > Mac OS also runs on a PC, which it did not, in the days of Windows 1.0
> > and GEM...
>
> Funny...
>
> The thread title seems to be "A lesson on why Windows dominates
> computing...", not "A lesson on why Windows dominates IBM compatible
> personal computing..."

Funny... the body of my message seems to support what I told you... and
then there's the fact that IBM PCs and thier clones are the majority
hardware platform... and so the dominent OS on those machines dominates
computing...

> >
> > > LOL
> >
> > ... you braying ass.
> >
> > > >
> > > > > And the Mac *invented* resource management.
> > > >
> > > > You seem to have forgotten to document either of your two claims. I'm
> > > > sure you'll rectify that oversight in short order.
> > >
> > > <http://folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=Resource_Manage
> > > r_Countdown.txt&sortOrder=Sort%20by%20Date&detail=medium&search=resource%
> > > 20manager>
> >
> > The history of the Macintosh Resource Manager is not proof that Apple
> > "invented resource management." You also failed to support your claim
> > about the Mac supporting DLLs "for a long time." No surprise there.
>
> From the link:
>
> " Resources were conceived and implemented by Bruce Horn. They came a
> little late in the design cycle, and we had to rewrite some other parts
> of the toolbox to take advantage of them, although that wasn't clear
> initially. But in the summer of 1982 they were definitely one of the
> riskier parts of the design. "
>
> "Conceived and implemented by Bruce Horn."

Because Bruce Horn conceived and implimented a way to manage resources
on the Mac does not mean he invented the concept of resource
management.

The whole purpose of an OS is to manage resourses, FYI.

Still no documentation from you about how long the Mac used DLLs,
either.

.

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