Re: Article: Bush Remarks On 'Intelligent Design' Theory Fuel Debate


ed wrote:
> Snit wrote:
> > "Nasht0n" <na@xxxxxxx> stated in post
> > To1Ie.69526$Ph4.2163030@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on 8/3/05 3:55 AM:
> >
> > > ed wrote:
> > >
> > >> In news:BF15B252.2774A%SNIT@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
> > >> Snit <SNIT@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> typed:
> > >>
> > >>> http://snipurl.com/goki
> > >>>
> > >>> -----
> > >>> President Bush invigorated proponents of teaching alternatives to
> > >>> evolution in public schools with remarks saying that schoolchildren
> > >>> should be taught about "intelligent design,"... Bush told Texas
> > >>> newspaper reporters ... that he believes that intelligent design
> > >>> should be taught alongside evolution as competing theories.
> > >>> -----
> > >>>
> > >>> On one hand Bush says he wants "no child left behind" and on the
> > >>> other he says he wants to see religion taught in science classes -
> > >>> effectively leaving all child behind.
> > >>>
> > >>> Then again, this is the same administration that encourages schools
> > >>> to teach to each students ability and test each student against grade
> > >>> level.
> > >>>
> > >>> Grrrr....
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> teaching religion does not leave kids behind in the sciences- some
> > >> absolutely brilliant scientific minds were true believers. what's important
> > >> is how it's taught- what causes kids to be left behind is not having
> > >> critical thinking skills- and that is not mutually independant of faith.
> > >
> > > Well said.
> > > Evolutionary theory is a wonderful piece of work, but it's just a
> > > theory, and one full of conceptual and logical flaws.
>
> evolution is basically accepted as fact, it's the details that
> scientists debate.

True.
>
> > When you say it is "just a theory" you toss in the straw man that when
> > something is "just a theory" it is not well established. In science, when
> > something reaches the level of theory it is well established and accepted -
>
> way oversimplified. for example, when did lamarck's theories on
> evolution become well established and accepted?

You are mixing up the common and scientific definitions of theory.
Lamarck's theories were, in actuality, never more than hypotheses.
>
> > such as the Newton's theory of gravity,
>
> that would be newton's laws of gravity, which has a theory about the
> cause. =D
>
> > Einstein's theory of relativity, the
> > theory of tectonic plates,
>
> plate tectonics are observable.

As is evolution...
>
> > the theory of electricity,
>
> theory of electricity?!?
>
>
> > > It also keeps anthropologists very busy looking for elusive transitional
> > > fossils and trying to scramble to logically explain the Cambrian
> > > explosion by means of evolutionary theory.
> > >
> > > Lamarck's theories, disguised as science, ought to be finally put to rest.
> >
> > I look forward to your support.
>
> lamarck's theories on the mode of eveolution is pretty much not
> accepted at all...

And, they weren't scientific theories. They were hypotheses, at best.
Darwin's ToE is, however, quite well supported by evidence. Lamarck
never was.

--
Dave Fritzinger
Honolulu, HI

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