Re: Performance Index gone from 3.7 to 2.8!?
- From: "~misfit~" <sore_n_happy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:49:14 +1300
Somewhere on teh intarwebs BillW50 wrote:
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~misfit~ typed on Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:18:23 +1300:
Somewhere on teh intarwebs BillW50 wrote:
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~misfit~ typed on Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:29:51 +1300:
Somewhere on teh intarwebs lgreenwood@xxxxxxx wrote:
Dont want to get into a spat over this...but video system
aside...I optimized an older pc that had never been optimized for
several years and I can tell you that it did make a difference
and I mean a very noticeable difference, including quicker boot
up and faster start up in programs like adobe suite . So I will
leave it at that. Larry
.. and I'll agree with you. A basic Windows defrag does SFA but a
smart defrag programme, such as PerfectDisk (my preference) can
make a significant difference to machines that are I/O-bound.
(Most older machines and most all laptops.) It puts all the boot
files at the fastest part of the disc as well as prioritising
oft-used data to the faster parts of the disc.
Are you sure you two? I wait until my drives end up being 60 to 70%
fragmented. Then I check the boot time, defrag, and check again. And
all I ever gained was a few seconds at best and sometimes nothing at
all. Back in the days of MFM drives, defragging really did speed
things up. But they have been gone for 20 years now.
What are you defragging with though? I'm talking 'smart' defragging
which puts the boot files and most accessed files at the fastest part
of the disk. Not just a disk defragmentaion such as comes with
Windows. I agree, that doesn't do much (but does do a little).
I tried many of them with many weird claims of decreasing your boot
times.
In what way were the claims weird? Did they involve satanism or astrology?
Are they written in pig Latin?
And the weird thing to me is, the I/O (the connection between the
hard drive to the computer) is the real bottleneck. Thus fragmented
or not, won't help this slow transfer speed. The drive's buffer
still fills up with a very fragmented drive. So I can't see any
scientific reasons why some claims it makes a big difference. I
really would like to see the data myself.
I have a couple older laptops here that I picked up in the last
couple months with 4200rpm drives in them. A 30GB and a 40GB, both
ATA5 (? if that's the 100MB/sec standard), both Pentium M (Banias)
CPUs. Both hadn't been defragged for ever TTBOMK (I'd just acquired them)
and were dog-slow to boot. I installed PerfectDisk on both and ran
'smartplacement defrag' (which took bloody ages, I mean hours..) and
after that they both boot much faster. I did time the boot to desktop
times but don't recall them. It shaved a good 20 seconds + off each
though and now programmes load faster. These drives were originally
XP no sp (or sp1 at best) and had been up dated to sp3 without being
defragged from what I could tell. --
I have two Toshiba 2595XDVD laptops which are perfect examples of
this. They sport 400MHz Celerons with 192MB of RAM (it's maxed out).
They have 6GB 4200rpm hard drives. One has Windows 98SE and the other
has Windows 2000. I tried many defrag programs on them and they are
always slow. The Windows 2000 is the worst. From memory, it takes 6
minutes to boot up and 10 minutes to recover from hibernation. Way
too slow for my tastes. And no defrag software ever helped them out
very much at all. The only thing that will help is faster hard drives
and nothing else.
I'm not saying that software will make ancient hardware competitive with new
hardware so I don't see your point?
--
Shaun.
"Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and he's
warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchet, 'Jingo'.
.
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