Re: More OT Palm stuff...Ignore..Don't open..Ect

In news:7obh855vb2s56f8155c4tsld0pdf9fembd@xxxxxxx,
AJL typed on Sun, 16 Aug 2009 19:28:29 -0700:
"BillW50" <BillW50@xxxxxxx> wrote:
... However if I try to use one that I haven't used in a while it is
slow to load because it must be copied from flash memory to working
memory before it can run. (And of course if the 10Meg is full it just
kicks something else out.)

How long does this take?

And when it (those III models) power down, they keep the RAM alive.
Thus running in what I call standby mode.

So I have 10 Meg instead of your 8 Meg in this "standby" mode. Perhaps
part of the battery longevity thing.

You say if you haven't used it in awhile, it sounds like yours dumps the
volatile memory (RAM). What determines this? The battery level perhaps?

My Palm III both c and xe models does have either a ROM or flash
memory.

You have flash ROM in both models. (Palm put out an upgrade kits for
OS 3.2 and 3.5.) JackFlash or FlashPro were apps (hacks?) that could
free up some of the ROM flash for the user. You got 800K in OS3.1 but
only 300K in your OS 3.5 because the newer OS used more of the
available flash.

Ah yes, it is coming back to me. <grin> And using PDA Check, my Palm
IIIxe reports the following:

ROM Size 1535KB
RAM Size 8192KB
Free Space 7850KB

PDA Check
http://www.howardlee.com/palm

I checked the Palm IIIc and it reports the same memory, except only half
of it is free. <grin>

So no, either it has to be synced or the battery must always keep the
RAM alive.

I use RFBackup on my m125 (AAA with SD card capability). It saves the
Palm memory to the SD card and then restores it exactly. Virtually all
the m1xx models had a BAD defect. After a year or so the capacitor
that kept the memory up while you changed batteries failed. So every
time you changed the AAAs away went the memory. Course you could just
re-sync but not everybody carried a computer with them. So I just use
RFBackup.

Ah that is too bad. Has anybody ever changed that capacitor? Sounds like
those bad electrolytic capacitors from Taiwan. Which was a stolen
process from Japan. Although whoever sold them the directions, forgot
one step which caused the caps to go bad in about a year. I have an
Avatar motherboard with those bad caps on them. Which quickly turned
into an
$800 piece of junk. <sigh>

I still use that m125 on camping trips. When I slow the processor down
to 10MHz (from the normal 32MHz) I can get almost 40 hours of book
reading on one set of batteries. 8-O I read a lot of books on those
old green screens but only do it now days if I have to... ;)

I much prefer to use my Palm IIIc screen instead of those green screens
except the green screens are better than the IIIc in bright sunlight.
And that backlight for the green screen is just awful. Wouldn't you
agree? Even hard to use in complete darkness. Better than nothing
though.

The Palm IIIxe uses AAA batteries and has a battery cover.

I also once had a IIIxe. I bought a rechargeable battery kit for it at
my local Sears. It came with a NiCad battery box that fit in where the
AAAs went. It came with a new battery door that contacted the battery
box and had an outside jack for the charger. But since the IIIxe
normally got around 20 hours on a set of AAAs this thing was more
gadget than practical.

BTW when that Sears store stopped selling Palms I found a brand new
m125 on the clearance rack for $30. What a steal that was.

That was a deal! I use rechargeable AAA in my Palm IIIxe. I just fired
it up in years. Dropping batteries in it it wouldn't turn on. Only after
I used the reset did it come to life. Beamed a few things from my Palm
IIIc and that worked. Even the OS update worked by beaming. I can't use
the sync cradle yet though. It appears it needs an user name for this
device. And I forget how to do this.

Say, I don't know if you can use these, but they come in handy from time
to time for me. You have to add that Palm shortcut character first
before the dot. You can put them in anything you can insert text and
numbers, like MemoPad or something.

~~~~~~~~~~

Palm's DOT Shortcuts

..i - enables Beam receive for a short time. No longer do you need to
have Beam Receive turned on in Prefs/General!

..s - toggles between serial and IR modes. In serial mode, info sent via
the IR port is instead sent over the serial port.

..t - toggles loopback mode for the IR Exchange Manager.

..1 - some sort of "debug" mode, opens the serial port. SERIOUS drain of
the batteries if left open (soft reset to close)

..2 - opens the serial port (another debug mode). Soft reset to close.

..3 - Turn auto-off off

..4 - flashes user name and number - this number represents the number
used in the Windows registry Key for the desktop softare to set the
install flag, denoting whether there are impending files to be installed
(Thanks Erwin Schomburg)

..5 - removes user configuration and hotsync log CAUTION: If you re-sync
after doing this shortcut, you will create duplicate entries! Better to
hard-reset and PC to PalmPilot Sync instead.

..6 - displays the ROM date

..7 -- toggle between Alkaline/NiCad/Rechargeable Alkaline/NiMH. Meant
for those using alternative batteries, to show proper "fuel" gauge on
the app screen (NiMH setting only in OS 3.3)

..8 - toggles the "inverse" backlighting on the new Palm V or Palm IIIx.

~~~~~~~~~~

--
Bill
Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) - Windows XP SP2



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