Re: Buy new laptop with Vista and then downgrade to XP, but how?

On Aug 1, 7:24 am, ggwillikers <no...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Roy wrote:
On Jul 31, 2:50 pm, John Doue <notw...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Roy wrote:
On Jul 29, 11:16 am, Larry <no...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Barry Watzman <WatzmanNOS...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in news:h4obi3$sh0$3
@news.eternal-september.org:
Netbooks are not general purpose Laptops/Notebooks.  They are
netbooks.
  They are fine dfr some [ok, many] things, they are horrible for lots
of other things.  IN GENERAL, they are not good choices as a main,
primary computer.  They have NO optical drive, in most cases, their
processors are weak, their memory is usually limited (granted, to a
level that is enough for some people) and their screens are small (in
both physical dimensions and resolution).
Horrible for what, specifically, that you need to do on a NOTEBOOK out
PORTABLE?  10.1" bright LCD screen sure beats lugging around that Drive-
in theatre beast, especially if you have to carry it further than 50
feet!  The NC10's NON-REFLECTIVE, screen can be watched in direct
sunlight.  You're not looking through a MIRROR IMAGE OF YOU to see the
picture!
I can understand the blustering, but cannot think of anything you'd need
in a PORTABLE NOTEBOOK the little netbooks won't do.  They're not some
hobbled up iPhone gadget, but a full-fledged Windows XP computer, just
like any other.  For 99% of all personal/home computing needs, a 1..6Ghz
Atom processor consuming little power is SUPERIOR to any of the
superfast processors that render their battery packs a single person can
pickup dead in an hour of converting the battery pack into waste heat
and blowing it out the side.
I get LOTS more computing power over many orders of greater hours on the
netbook than anything else I've ever owned.
But, as you'll notice, I was ASKING the poster if he could justify or
needed this battery-guzzling computing monster with the high powered
drivein screen doing something a 1.6Ghz, 160GB, 2GB RAM (upgrade is $20)
wouldn't do.
When was the last time you just HAD to burn a DVD+R in your superfancy
notebook that couldn't wait until you came home?  The lack of drive is a
BENEFIT, not a restriction as you've eliminated a source of BATTERY
CONSUMPTION and WEIGHT and VOLUME the damned laptop drive takes up when
it's hardly ever needed at all!  I find The Tornado USB device MUCH more
useful than a DVD/CD drive of any kind.  If I want to rip/give files to
someone else, I simply plug in the Tornado and it self-boots-without-
installing it's Windows file manager on both machines by simply plugging
it in.  Then, I can swap files at full USB 2.1 Expanded (or whatever
other new names they dream up) from one to the other MUCH MUCH faster
than burning and reading an old optical disk of any nature.  Tornado
file transfers are only limited by how much hard drive space you
gots....and mine will soon be a 1TB 2.5" Western Digital beast as soon
as I can get one...(c;]
"Their memory is limited".....true, limited to 2GB.  A 200 pin 2GB stick
is $20 from buy.com with free shipping.  I can't imagine a LAPTOP
needing more.  What the hell are you running a gigabit server?!
A laptop/notebook/netbook should never be the primary computer in
anyone's shack.  That's crazy.  I got rid of my tower and am using a
fully loaded, Dell Poweredge 2600 server I bought for $6 from a thrift
shop as my home computer, now.  Talk about overkill!  THAT's crazy!
Sure is nice to have 15,000 RPM hard drives with big cache instead of
the old 7200 RPM Pentium drives, though....Loads real quick!
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Larry
http://flightaware.com/analysis/allflights_movie.rvt
Each tiny red dot is an airliner in this Quicktime movie, ONE recent day
of
air travel in the USA.  What would happen if "they" found out this was
the real source of air pollution or cancer or why all the bugs around my
streetlight have disappeared?  Would "they" tell us?  Would "they" STOP
IT?!
Larry you should not dictate your terms on  other people preference
for their personal portable computers.....
I for one hate netbooks  and a few times I rejected gifts of such kind
given to me including  the Samsung Model you are so proud about. I did
not even open the packages when I know whats in it, but politely
returned all of them to the sender much to their surprise.
I don’t want any of those tiny crap***  within 10 feet of my home!
But if other people are happy with  such miniature laptops, so be it,
I RESPECT  that and in the same way I NEVER dictate also my preference
for  huge  and expensive desktop replacement systems to other people
who hates its being tethered to the power socket permanently  and so
heavy to carry around,  but that is my  PERSONAL choice….
But I insist .. and majority will surely agree .that a very powerful
laptop or accurately  a desktop replacement system   is already a
complete computer  and can do 100% of the  computing work I  need for
it...and therefore  I have no need for those clunky desktops either..
Roy

I stopped agreeing with your post when I reach your last paragraph.
Of course I respect your preferences, but it seems to me that when you
refer to "clunky desktops" (which I think are a disappearing species),
you ignore mini-desktops which offer the exact same benefits as the big
laptop you favor, at a fraction of the course, while letting you choose
your keyboard, your display, and their respective positions.

John mini desktops  are not designed to be portable like
laptops  .....
Its not easy to transport it er as  its not foldable nor can it be
emplaced it its own carrying case( like laptops)  and  often its bulky
and you have to carry also the accesories, such as the keyboards, the
LCD Screen ,the mini tower, etc. To much of a hassle to carry around
separate components and they lack the compactness of the huge laptops
that I am fond of.

Apparently the huge laptops you are fond of aren't used in a true mobile
fashion. I mean 100% on the road in and out of client locations on a
daily basis, not to mention lugging one through the airport twice a week.



They are still desktops
etc.
Agreed, they do not claim to be mobile, but their small size makes it
easy to move them when needed. Of course, it needs to be connected full
time to the mains, which you readily accept.

Of course, to each its own, but my approach is less expensive and more
flexible, especially since I will never settle with a laptop with a
"bright" display.

Regards

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Well what I considered portable( or mobile?) PC is what I can carry
whenever I travel and often its the kind I prefer..
Roy
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