Re: Microsoft Monopoly [Re: 7 Questions To Ask A Laptop Salesman]

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Richard Bonner typed on Thu, 8 Jan 2009 12:57:18 +0000 (UTC):
BillW50 (billw50@xxxxxxx) wrote:
Richard Bonner typed on Thu, 1 Jan 2009 00:36:49 +0000 (UTC):
BillW50 (BillW50@xxxxxxx) wrote:

Richard Bonner wrote on Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:39:43 +0000 (UTC):
*** Microsoft in
the past has been guilty of bullying competitors out of the
market, and guilty of putting things into their products to mess
up other operating systems. I would prefer real and honest
competition.

That is because the competitors has done it to Microsoft. So are
you the type who believes people and companies has no right to
defend themselves?

*** Not at all, but when defense turns to outright offense at the
expense of competition and the consumer, then I don't agree.

Bull! Apple bullied its way! IBM bullied its way! Even Beta recorders
bullied its way, and it doesn't work. What works is supply and
demand!

*** Beta recorders? At the time, they were the only format. When VHS
appeared, both machines were in all the stores.

No I remember there was the laser video disc (or whatever it was called).
About the size of a LP record. It was first and then Beta bullied their way
and knocked it right out.

Also zillions of companies owes their very existence to what
Microsoft has created. And if MS didn't battle it out with IBM, we
all would be using IBM made computers and running IBM made
software. And there would be nobody else around except perhaps
Apple.

*** You can't predict that. However, since IBM was not the only
game before, I can't see it being the only game in your scenario.

Sure I can! I saw the internal IBM video of their plans. They wanted
OS/2 to take over as the main OS for PCs and then they were going to
tweak it to only work on true IBM machines only. It is in IBM's own
internal video!

*** I can't say because I have never seen it, but realise that IBM
was partnered with Microsft on the OS/2 project.

It's true.

Well Apple would
be gone too since Microsoft gave Apple money to stay in business,
but you know IBM wouldn't do that for Apple.

*** Microsoft *had* to do that. If they hadn't, they would have
been broken up, as was ATT, because of anti-monopoly laws.

Nonsense! It was because MS liked Apple and disliked IBM.

*** You may want to review the anti-trust business media articles of
that time. If they had not helped at least one of their competitors,
they were in danger of being broken up.

Don't forget that Microsoft was ordered to be broken up. Although that was
later overturned.

So how many other competitors
do you know that will give you money to stay in business? Nowadays
Bill Gates is giving billions of dollars away to help people.
--
Bill

*** You mean just like the crime boss gives candy to all the
neighbourhood kids? Of course, the money to buy that candy was
extorted from their parents.

Nonsense! If that were true, there would be no other OS around.
There are plenty of OS out there.

*** All PC ones being unfairly kept down due to unethical business
practices.

On the contrary. Everybody is trying to come up with a better Windows than
Windows. And Microsoft has to compete with the likes of Linux and Mac OS.

The problem is the masses doesn't like them. Plain
and simple! Just because you like DOS doesn't mean the masses has to
like it too. DOS didn't appeal to consumers. I know, I was there
when DOS was the standard. Most people just didn't like it at all.

*** Uh, huh. That really explains why it was the number one
operating system until Microsoft quashed it with its "DOS is dead"
campaign.

That isn't what I mean. What I mean while some of us were into computers
long before friends and family were. They didn't come onboard until Windows
became popular and they didn't need to remember commands that they needed to
type in.

And remember, MS-DOS wasn't the defacto standard back in the early days
either. As CP/M was. And the BIOS had to be rewritten for every make and
model. And CP/M also has much of the same problem as Linux has today. As
many applications were locked into one make and model. Linux has this
problem with the many different Linux distros.

I was more than happy running CP/M over MS-DOS. But Gary Kildall got tired
of CP/M and without notice back in '85, killed it. How nice, not! I had an
office suite I was going to release for CP/M. And Gary Kildall just gave the
whole OS market to Microsoft. Talk about making dumb moves! Although that
was Gary. Scam people out of their money and then drop his customers like a
hot potato.

GEOS was another one who played this game as well. They were beating MS in
the GUI OS market. GEOS was selling like hot cakes! I even bought over $1000
worth of GEOS
software in about 2 to 3 years. Then GEOS drops everything. Products and
support. What a rip! But just like Gary, gave the whole GUI market to
Microsoft.

--
Bill
2 Gateway MX6124 - Windows XP SP2
3 Asus EEE PC 701G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
2 Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 1GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2 ~ Xandros Linux - Puppy - Ubuntu


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