Re: Boot Up...make it faster



Frank wrote:

> Well I just won the ebay auction and am getting the AMD K-6 300 shipped to
> my door for under $6.00. For a price of a value meal, I think it's worth a
> try.
>
> I've checked the Bios settings and everything is good. I should turn off
> some services on 2000 right now.
>
> What happened to CPU doublers and things like that? I remember way back
> when there were 486x66 chips and then there were doublers or something
> like that and then there were actual upgrade chips that made your cpu run
> at pentium like speeds just by poping it into the socket. I know I'm
> rambling but does anyone remember those? And if so, did they ever make one
> to accomdate PI, PII, PIII, etc????

There was a "Pentium Overdrive" chip from Intel that fitted a Pentium I into
a 486 socket. There was never an overdrive to go from the Pentium to the
PII. A Slot 1 PIII will plug right into the same socket as a Slot 1 PII
and if there is sufficient power and the BIOS lets the machine boot it
works fine--no overdrive needed. There was no upgrade path that let a P4
replace a PIII. There was however a Pentium III or Xeon (I forget which
core they used) Overdrive that replaced a Pentium Pro.

The big trouble with the "overdrive" concept is that it assumes that the CPU
is the bottleneck--in contemporary machines that is seldom the case when
going from one series of processor to another. Replacing a 66 MHz '486
with a 3 GHz P4 that fits the same socket would not produce much in the way
of performance gains, the P4 would just be sitting idle most of the time
waiting for the rest of the machine to deliver up or accept data.

There's no real economic incentive for such an approach anymore
anyway--motherboards that can accept the latest generation of AMD or Intel
processors can be had for 65 bucks.

While superficially it would make sense for laptops, in the real world
between tight clearances, power, and cooling it would be difficult to make
a workable drop in replacment, especially considering that the market for
such a thing would be very small.

> Thanks,
> Frank
>
>
>
> "mike" <spamme0@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:4380D6EE.8010607@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Frank wrote:
>>> I have an old laptop that I'm running with Win 2000. It takes about 3
>>> minutes or more to boot it up. Windows 98 took about the same time.
>>>
>>> The laptop is an Inca Empire 9700 with a Pentium 200 cpu with 128MB of
>>> RAM.
>>>
>>> I'm in the process of getting a faster cpu (AMD K-6 300) and another 128
>>> MB of Ram (I'm not sure it can handle any more).
>>>
>>> My question to you is, how can I make this thing boot faster? Getting
>>> rid of this unit is not an option. I tried XP and it wouldn't run on it
>>> for obvious reasons.
>>>
>>> What about another operating system? I need to run MS Applications and
>>> surf the internet and run my camera programs.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions????
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I have an old Hitachi P166 with 48mb ram slow non-dma hard drive win98SE.
>> It boots to the "sound" in 70 seconds. Takes another minute to get
>> the wireless network configured and load all the way.
>> Sounds like too many programs/services loading.
>> Check the network settings. If it thinks there's a network and it
>> can't find it, you'll be waiting for the timeout.
>> Consider Suspend to Disk instead of shutdown.
>> You sure you've got all the optimizations turned on in the bios?
>> Turning off memory caching will make any system run like a dog.
>>
>>
>> I have a
>> Fujitsu Lifebook that was running windows NT p233 96MB slow disk. On that
>> system, the boot
>> time was about equal to the battery life. Replaced 2K with 98SE and
>> all is good. I don't have any controlled experiments, but I can say
>> that EVERY time I've bought a used laptop with NT, it was SLOOOOW.
>> Not sure if/how that gives any guidance for win2K.
>>
>> It's rarely cost effective to pour money into upgrading an obsolete
>> laptop.
>> mike
>>
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