Re: RAID Setup and DP35DP?
- From: "Frank Pajerski" <fpajerski.is.at.sbcglobal@net>
- Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 12:02:39 -0700
BIOS 0262 (23Jul2007) "removed floppy menu screen for boards that don't support it" ... such as for the DP35DP here. The floppy drive controller is truly disabled. I'm at the latest 0287 level.
During the WinXP install-setup process, my NEC USB Floppy Drive was correctly seen and used as drive A in response to my F6 action. But a little bit later in this process, when WinXP itself is more in control and has returned to load/reload drivers from the diskette, this drive was not then seen.
I have found this explained in Microsoft KB article 916916 ... my NEC unit is not defined in WinXP, hence it is not being seen. I have now ordered a supported unit via eBay.
What I am really after in my newly built PC is the use only of SATA HDD's and ODD's ... no IDE stuff. I may or may not want a RAID setup sometime later. Thus I want to specify RAID now in the BIOS as Intel strongly recommends, just in case. All this I did OK last week with a Vista install (with the RAID/AHCI drivers on a USB Flash Drive), but that week taught me that I strongly want to be running WinXP instead.
To help the WinXP installation, I de-cabled the SATA HDD and ODD units and installed an IDE HDD (less than 137GB) and an IDE ODD. I do not want to slipstream SP2 into a new WinXP install disc.
So, next week with a supported USB Floppy Drive in use at F6 installation-time, I'm thinking that I can march on to a WinXP-SP2 environment at a current maintenance level, and then install the Matrix Storage Manager. That should then allow me to replace the IDE ODD with an SATA ODD, and to add SATA HDD('s) and even RAID them if I wish. Correct?
And first, I have to WinXP install onto an IDE HDD, not onto a SATA HDD, even with the RAID/ACHI drivers loaded at F6 time. Correct?? (I hope not.)
--- Frank
"Bob Bailin" <72027.3605@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:M5uNi.31034$eY.16278@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Is there any option in the BIOS regarding floppy drives? I realize the
DP35DP doesn't support a standard floppy drive, but the option
to enable or disable the floppy controller may still exist. If you disable
the floppy drive controller, the USB drive should become the A drive.
You didn't mention it, but you must be using XP SP2 in order to
install the RAID drivers properly. Earlier versions won't work because
they lack the proper USB support for the USB floppy.
Bob
"Frank Pajerski" <fpajerski.is.at.sbcglobal@net> wrote in message news:COjNi.6731$6p6.4605@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxThe Intel RAID/ACHI driver diskette (V7.5.0.1017) in a NEC USB Floppy Drive was seen/read OK after an F6 during a WinXP clean-install just now. All this is with RAID specified in the BIOS (0287 level) on a DP35DP board and using an IDE ODD and HDD.
But ... a short bit more in this installation process sees me now in the "WinXP Home Setup" mode with more material still being loaded, and now there is a message "insert the disk labeled: Intel Matrix Storage Manager device into Drive A ... and press enter when ready or F3 to exit setup choices". And I am now stuck. Pressing enter does nothing with a diskette loaded or not, and inserting a diskette into the reader does not spark the green LED (or any noise) from the reader as when it normally would be sensing what has just happened. Essentially, this device which worked a minute earlier in the install process is now dead to the install process. I am not even sure it has USB-power at this point.
I can repeat this problem constantly (with the Intel diskette already loaded or not), and have tried various other changes such as specifying AHCI instead of RAID in the BIOS. Note that the message specifies "Drive A" (as did the earlier message for the RAID/ACHI driver load) .... the setup process is still looking for diskette-provided material. I've also tried the latest downloaded V7.6.0.1011 Raid software from Intel.
Is there some solution other than my retreating to an all-IDE (but only two of these!) environment? I just spent a week on this newly built PC loading Vista and then various drivers and updates (and updating the BIOS to 0287), and trying to use Vista happily..... and now really want to go back to WinXP until Windows 7 appears (in 2010??).
What if I just stay with IDE devices until I have WinXP-SP2 installed and up to a current maintenance level and running OK (even with RAID still specified in the BIOS), and then install the Intel Matrix Storage Manager software. Would this "afterwards" installation effort load the necessary SATA drivers so I could then change to a SATA ODD? Could I then also add two SATA HDD's (for data) and RAID-configure them OK? I don't have a problem with continuing to run WinXP from an IDE HDD.
Thanks for any help here.
--- Frank
"Bob Bailin" <72027.3605@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:BWADi.5065$JD.1586@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxUSB floppy drives should work.
Intel calls the driver I'm referring to:
F6 driver diskette for Windows* XP Home, Windows* XP Professional, Windows* XP Media Center Edition, Windows* 2000 or any 32-bit version of Windows* Vista: STOR_f6flpy32_7.6.0.1011_PV_Intel.exe
only because you have to hit the F6 key during installation. The chipset is P35.
If you ever do try out Vista, you have a compatibility mode setting for each exe
file (under Properties) that works for all the legacy programs I've tried so far.
FYI: Intel just released a BIOS update for your board yesterday, and a new
version of their INF chipset installation utility last week that you should install
once XP is working.
"Justin" <Justin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:fbkvrr$7jm$1@xxxxxxxxxxxI believe I now understand.
One other question, since this board doesn't have a floppy controller, the USB floppy disk I'm going to steal from work, will be recognizable by the BIOS, right?
You said RAID "F6" drivers. I know Ihave to _hit_ F6 to get in there, I had to do the same thing with this board; but is that what the chipset is called? F6?
As much as I would like to run Vista - there are some legacy apps that refuse to run on it. So Im stuck with XP for the rest of the year.
"Bob Bailin" <72027.3605@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:SwhDi.1667$FO2.583@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
"Justin" <Justin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:fbiqvp$6m4$1@xxxxxxxxxxxI'm wondering how theinitial setup works.
I'll have two identical HDs plugged into the same controller. Will the controller automatically realize it should be set up as a single mirrored volume, or do I have to set it up from inside the BIOS?
Once it is set in the BIOS, just boot from the Windows XP CD and install from there?
No, you have to go into the BIOS and set the SATA controller to RAID.
Save the settings, reboot, and when the Intel RAID screen appears, hit
Ctrl-I to enter RAID setup. Setup your RAID 1 here.
Before you install WinXP, you'll have to get the Intel RAID F6 drivers
from support.intel.com downloads. Install these on a floppy, and at the
beginning of XP setup, hit F6 when instructed to add a 3rd party driver.
Vista already comes with the Intel RAID drivers.
Bob
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