Re: Model 80 video
- From: "Dan the K" <kaliushkin@xxxxxxx>
- Date: 30 Jul 2005 16:30:09 -0700
Hi, again, Dan
Here's my census of monitors:
upstairs:
IBM 14V - PC 750, onboard video, DOS/WFW/Windows NT;
IBM 8515 - 9595-0MF, XGA-2; DOS/WFW/Windows NT soon to have OS/2 Warp
4;
IBM G54 - 9755-DNG, XGA-2; DOS/WFW/OS/2 Warp Connect, currently
inactive because of error messages about a bad SCSI controller.
downstairs:
IBM ? - shared between 9595-1NG(Y) presently SVGA, will be XGA-2 and
will run OS/2 Warp Server, and PC 750 PCI/MCA, no video card but might
put XGA-2 or Matrox, Number 9, STB, both computers are being set up and
experimented on;
That leaves in the basement two monitors (one is a CTX and the other is
on an HP Vectra 5/75) and the computers I intend to set up: 8580 and PC
300GL (will get a PCI video card).
So right now I'm targeting flea markets and yard/garage sales.
Dan O wrote:
....
> If you're short on video cards, and don't have any special display
> requirements of your model 80, then use the onboard video. That's what
> it's there for, and the limited capabilities of your 8515 monitor will
> be well utilized.
Is the SVGA/A superior to onboard video?
>
>
> > > SVGA/A is a lousy video card compared to XGA-2. (Didn't we talk about
> > > this already?) It's intended to provide a marginally usable GUI for
> > > ie; server administration.
> > >
> > Yes, we did talk about these two cards. The SVGA card came in a
> > 9595-1NG and we talked about it in that context. I'm going to swap it
> > out for XGA-2 after I've got other things set up (hard drives, CD-ROMs,
> > floppy disk drives). That will be my last XGA-2, hence my concern
> > about resource shortage.
> >
>
> When comparing SVGA/A to XGA-2, there's just no comparison: XGA-2 is
> better in every way (unless you absolutely have to have a physically
> short card to ie; route a short SCSI cable by or something :-)
>
>
> > Although you explained the difference between these video cards on a
> > 9595, I was wondering if there is any difference on a Model 80.
> >
>
> My own experience with model 80 is quite limited (have only ever used
> the onboard VGA), but it *does* have built-in video capability, whereas
> you have no choice but to put some kind of expansion adapter in the 95.
> So if you're short on video cards...
>
> Consider William's observations in this thread about the SVGA/A and
> model 80.
>
>
> > >
> > > > The reason for this question is that I'm adding a few more computers to
> > > > my home LAN and am running low on resources - such as monitors and
> > > > XGA-2 cards.
> > >
> > > XGA-2 cards are not too hard to find. It doesn't take much in the way
> > > of video to get on the LAN.
> > >
> > You mean Internet, don't you? I do all of my web surfing on a PC 750
> > running Windows NT. It uses an IBM 14V monitor.
> >
>
> LAN, Internet - same thing - except that TCP/IP is required for
> Internet. Neither requires graphical display capabilities of any
> kind.
I thought the Internet thrived on fancy video. I get to these pages
which say, "downloading 54 images."
>
> Go ahead and put the SVGA/A in some system that you're not going to be
> spending as much time in front of. Something like the 14V can easily
> make the most of that card.
>
Why don't you rank the monitors? I thought the 14V was pretty good.
In fact, I just upped the Windows NT display from 480 x 640 to 600 x
800. You say the G54 is superior to the 14V?
>
> > > > I might actually have to buy a monitor :-( , something I
> > > > haven't done for about 10 years.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Try to pair your XGA-2's with 9515 or better yet 9517 monitor(s).
> >
> > I'll keep looking.
>
> You could use some other good monitor with your XGA-2, but IMO the
> 9515/9517 is the highest natural complement to an XGA-2 equipped PS/2.
> A nice clean PS/2 system, equipped with model M keyboard and 9515/9517
> monitor looks good even when it's turned off.
>
> For permanent installation throughout the house, I guess you need a
> monitor for each machine, but on the bench or in otherwise close
> proximity you can use like a knife-switch KVM to share a single
> monitor. Use separate keyboards and mice for each machine, though.
Been there, done that. Right now I have 3 computers is my bedroom set
up so I can reach all of them at the same time. I might put a fourth
in the living room. Only 2 are working right now. I want to keep them
all on and usable. Nothing like being able to keep going when one
computer is tied up. The shortage is going to be in the basement:
9595-1NG, PC 750 and PC 300GL and I'm not even talking about the other
9577 Bermuda.
Dan
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