Re: Not sure what to do about not receiving error messages
- From: "Squeeze" <rubberduck@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:34:41 +0100
Rod Speed wrote in news:6fel3rFb6rjfU1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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news.rcn.com <fountainpen@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:No, the first time the i/o controller was dead and the second the
Does anyone know how many spare clusters there are typically on a
120 Gig Travelstar please?
It doesnt matter. If you need most of them, the drive is dying.
I suppose it IS safe to use them?
Not if the data isnt fully backed up.
Isn't that what they are for?
Nope, its so the drive dies gracefully when thats possible.
I have a 120 Gig Travelstar which was continuously failing. When it
failed the computer wouldn't POST, giving a hard drive failure
error message. I could then load BIOS defaults and go into windows
and the machine would work for sometimes a few minutes, sometimes
a day or so before cutting dead.
Thats not the drive dying. If the drive was dying, loading the BIOS
defaults wouldnt make any difference.
The manufacturer has replaced the mobo on this unit twice in the
last month or so.
Maybe with another defective motherboard with the same fault thats
common to that motherboard.
mouse was completely inoperative. If this is a problem with the
mobo, this is the first I have seen of it
However running DFT's advanced test (from a CD) shows dead
clusters and running sector repair just results in a COMPLETED
SUCCESSFULLY message???
Likely the fault is producing the illusion of bad clusters that
arent actually bad.
Sorry, I was asked to post a report and just said that everything was OK
There was one interesting statistic: The replaced secor count was 5
And that shows that the drive has some bad sectors that have been replaced.
Yes Rod, that's what he said. Your reading abilities are uncanny.
There are other relevant fields like pending
and sectors that cant be replaced.
No such field.
which it said was within normal paramters.
It always does with the OK even with very dead drives.
Nope.
5 seems like the sort of figure produced by a SMART sector replacement.
Yes, those sectors have been replaced. SMART is just reporting that.
I ran DFT at least ten times before it reported that there were no
(more) bad sectors. I wonder if I should call Acer and ask them if they
think this points to a problem with the motherboard as you describe?
Nope, it indicates that the drive is going bad.
That may be the only problem.
This is now especially difficult if the problem has (by now) gone
away and I have in effect nothing to show Acer on this Mobo which
is actually wrong??
Correct. But a drive that develops that many bad sectors
Yeah, a whopping 5. The drive is obviously deader than a door nail.
will usually develop more unless you were just badly overheating
the drive because its not been adequately cooled.
I just have to sort of hope (!) that the problem
comes back before the warranty expires
It should do unless you were just badly overheating the drive
because its not been adequately cooled and that doesnt recur.
No need to replace the drive if that was the problem tho.
Post the full SMART report to be sure that there isnt more
useful information in it than just those replaced sectors.
It should report on the drive max temp too with a Hitachi drive.
Dont worry about 'squeeze', he's just some loon we keep in a padded
cell for his own protection.
Yes please, offer your wallet to the friendly pickpocket.
He will keep it in safe storage for you.
.
I should have said
That is even more worrying, when a positive message doesnt mean much;
This is why I posted!!
Well the upshot SEEMS at the moment to be that the problem hasI then went into windows and the problem persists.
Because the data has not been restored to the bad clusters.
Running DFT again gives the same successful cluster repair message
0x00, In fact running it successively results in finding MORE dead
clusters.
Then the fault is still present. Thats not unusual with some
faults, even with a dying drive.
I must have run it about ten times in a row by now.
Trouble is that suddenly the problem has gone away. No further
dead clusters are found and for now, the system runs properly in
Windows.
Thats also not unusual. Its called an intermittent fault.
Has DFT replaced ALL dead clusters with spare ones
Impossible to say from the evidence you have provided.
gone away BUT I did download the everest tool you mentioned
Everything checks out successfully on SMART. It ran in a second or
or is there any more exhaustive test I can run which could tell me
whether this drive is going to be reliable?
Not a test so much as a report. Post the Everest SMART report for
the drive.
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4181
so and reports that everything passes the test and is within parameters.
I have lost my UBCD4WIN boot disc)
Then download another. (is it that easy? Or does it involve
creating a slipstreamed CD with all patches in, and making an ISO
out of that and burning it to the CD?)
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