Re: so what is the deal with maxtor's bad reputation ???

Odie Ferrous <Odie_ferrous@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Rod Speed wrote:

Odie Ferrous <Odie_ferrous@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Folkert Rienstra wrote:

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Arno Wagner wrote:
Previously Mark M <nomail@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 15 Feb 2006, Arno Wagner wrote:

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Now where did I see that lovely little table showing drive
reliabilty (for all models) comparing manufacturers and drawing
on some reasonable data. Was it at StorageReview? It wasn't
this table but anyway this is interesting in its own way:

http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/computer/data-backup.htm

Does not surpris me. Many people try to convince themselves that
their own choices are good ones. Often they even continue to do
so when evidence to the contrary comes to their attention.

I find it interesting that he lists LaCie as a drive
manufacturer--LaCie does not make drives, they buy Seagate,
Hitachi, Maxtor, WD, Samsung, etc drives and put them in boxes
with a "Lacie" sticker on the front.

So now you know how to make those Seagate, Hitachi, Maxtor,
WD, Samsung drives more reliable. Just put the magic sticker on.

I would have thought you'd be aware that certain manufacturing /
process control / quality control issues would be part of the
process of "making a drive more reliable" - but then I could be
wrong.

I bet its much more about how its designed in the first place,
most obviously with how it gets rid of the heat thats produced etc.

Or do you think drives are manufactured by the Lego principle?

Nope, but I doubt that a properly designed drive should
be hard to manufacture at a very low failure rate now.

The trouble is, the manufacturers seem
to work to a price point, and little else.

Sure, but decent design doesnt necessarily cost anything,
particularly when you factor in the cost of warranty etc.

Look at the buyers of drives; "I bought a Maxtor 300GB
drive because it was $5.23 cheaper than the Seagate."

I doubt too many do it as mindlessly as that.

Not "I spent a little extra for the Seagate because
I believe it to be more reliable than the Maxtor."

Some do just that. Or pay a little more for the 5 year warranty.

And because China appears to have taken
control of the world's manufacturing,

No it hasnt, few hard drives are made there.

and "quality control" is still not a concept they understand,
little wonder modern drives seem to be so fragile.

Like I said, a properly designed drive should be hard
to manufacture at a very low failure rate now.

AND Seagate is one of the few drive manufacturers
that actually manufacturers in China.

You can now furiously inspect your Seagate drives and see
if the ones that failed at that obscene rate came from china |-)



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