Re: Using Drive Image to adjust space?

Timothy Daniels <TDaniels@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Timothy Daniels wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Timothy Daniels wrote

>>>>> Notice, Terry, that Rod is saying "image file" and not "clone".
>>>>> This differentiating terminology is not used consistently from
>>>>> one copy utility to another,

>>>> Wrong with the mainstream utes.

>>> The most mainstream "ute" now is Ghost 9.0,
>>> and its User's Manual doesn't use the term "clone".

>> The term image file is used consistently between
>> Ghost and True Image, which is the next most
>> mainstream still current imager.

> And neither Ghost 9.0 nor True Image 8.0 (the most
> recent versions of those utilities) use the term "clone".
> Here is the User's Manual for True Image 8.0:
> http://us1.download.acronis.com/pdf/trueimage8.0_ug.en.pdf

That is just plain wrong, search on the word clone.

>>> But Ghost does have a feature that would be of interest to Terry called
>>> "SmartSector" copying.

>> Nope, the DI 2002 he is using has that too and
>> its a lot more reliable than Ghost 9 is as well.

> And Ghost does have a feature that would be of interest
> to Terry, as did Drive Image, called "SmartSector" copying.

Irrelevant to whether the DI he has has that too.

>>> It speeds up the copying process by only copying clusters and sectors that
>>> "contain data".

>> DI was doing that LONG before Ghost 9 ever showed up.

> And now Ghost 9.0, the successor to PowerQuest's Drive Image 7, does it ,too.

Irrelevant to whether the DI 2002 he has had all along has that too.

>>> OK, the clone partition contains a sector-by-sector
>>> duplicate of the original partition

>> No it doesnt. Its a file by file copy.

> And are the Master Boot Record and Boot Sector file-by-file copies, too?

Irrelevant to how the contents of the partition are copied.

> And why does the clone have the same file fragmentation as did the original

It doesnt.

> if files are copied as files and not just contents of sectors?

>>> plus whatever excess space the user designates for the destination partition
>>> and that the new HD can accommodate.

>> That wont work, the directory structures have to
>> be adjusted to allow for the different sized drive.

> I didn't say that the directory structures would not be adjusted.

You claimed that it does a sector by sector copy of the files, it doesnt.

>>> And presumably, the extra space will be formatted by the cloning utility.

>> Wrong again. No need to touch them.

> Cloning sector-by-sector carries formatting information along "on top" the
> sectors.

'formatting information' isnt the same thing
as 'the extra space will be formatted'

Nothing needs to be done with the extra space.

The directory structures, FAT etc need to allow for it.

> If the utility makes a clone of the same size partition, there is no need for
> it to format the new partition.

There is never any need to format the partition, the ute does
whatever needs to be done in the process of cloning, regardless
of its relative size, both with cloning and with restoring an image.

> If there is more space in the destination partition than the clone that is
> going into it, the remaining space in the new partition will have to be
> formatted by the utility.

Wrong, as always.

> Now say "Wrong again" or simply "Nope". :-)

Get stuffed.


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